Whoever thinks that Clyde and Clyde North is well served by buses has obviously never tried to travel there by bus. That's because there are none except for the 796 that runs twice a day on school days only. A large part of Cranbourne East is also without a bus service as the government hasn't bothered to extend the route 898 as the area developed.
Some pollie on 3AW yesterday said the order would be put out to tender and that they would only run on the Dandenong corridor; so not maybe not X'Traps. By high capacity I read more doors and longitudinal seating. Probably not going to be longer as there's no room in the Loop and it would be expensive if not impossible to make the loop stations longer.
Probably not going to be longer as there's no room in the Loop and it would be expensive if not impossible to make the loop stations longer.
Loop platforms are 160 metres long. Current suburban trains are all a little shorter than 144 metres long for a six car set.
Harris "BLUE" trains were longer than the current suburban trains, when in eight car consists (v seven car consists which were shorter), and these ran through the loop.
This is another road project masquerading as a rail project. Any extra train capacity (i.e. removing seats and/or cabs) will be gobbled up in increased patronage before a sod is turned.
Currently 14 peak suburban services will go to 18 peak suburban services with this project.
25 "High Capacity" trains to hold 871 passengers c.f. 798 theoretical now (or > 798 actual "crush load" now)
798 x 14 = 11172
871 x 18 = 15678
4506 extra passengers (rounded off to 4500 in the press release)
Looks like another Road Project masquerading as a Rail Project.
Aren't they supposed to carry 1100 passengers?
The new signalling idea is idiotic. Only the extra 25 trains will have the on board technology and these won't be delivered until 2019 anyway.
Unless the Caulfield to Dandenong corridor gains at least one extra track, there will be no real increase in capacity at all.
Up until privatisation, every train was designed to run throughout the whole system.
If this put out to tender I would hope that Bombardier would contribute. Here is a picture of the Bombardier A-City units being tested in Adelaide. The SA government ordered 22 three-car sets. They are based on the VLocity design and being built at Bombardier Dandenong:
Excellent, we're getting somewhere finally.
Next step, connect the stoppers from Dandenong to Oakleigh through Chadstone to East Malvern...
Quad from Oakleigh to Dandenong to serve outer reaches and Vline...
Bomb three stations b/w Caulfield and Oakleigh and run expresses via two tracks here to combine with Frankston express at Caulfield.
Then you've got a real metro system. (PS. Screw Rowville, the idea needs to die.)
Quadding the Dandenong line is pointless unless the new track pair ultimately goes all the way through the CBD. This is how it should be done:
1) Two new express tracks from Dandeonong to just south of South Yarra station around the South Yarra siding reserve. Don't have room? Tunnel or just buy the land and clear a path for it. Not cheap, but that's the deal. Stops are probably only needed at Oakleigh and Caufield along the way.
Today Natphine announced a $2 Billion dollar upgrade of the Dandenong rail corridor
Today Natphine announced a $2 Billion dollar upgrade of the Dandenong rail corridor.
The basics of todays announcement include:
- The removal of level crossings at Koornang Rd, Murrumbeena Rd, Clayton Rd & Centre Rd. (with provision to remove all the other level crossings)
- Associated rebuilding of Carnegie, Murrumbeena & Clayton Stations
- Upgraded signalling.
- A new train maintenance yard at Pakenham East
- 25 new high-capacity trains (which I assume will be of X'Trap models).
Construction is scheduled to start next year and continue to 2019.
Valvegear has the correct answer on the previous page, and it seems as though most on here are believing this election stunt.
Urrr let me guess, runs through marginal seats??
And I couldn't help but notice them also say they're about to promise the same Southland station they promised last time around...
Where does the 995,500 road commuters number come from ?
Or did some Government spin doctor dream It up to rise eyebrows ?
So if Napthine is serious, since his Liberals have been elected, then why didn't the Liberals start these projects while they are in power, instead of just trying to buy votes and making them election promises? And the same no matter what party is elected.