The most useless and/or ineffective things invented by man

 
  Camster Chief Commissioner

Location: Geelong
25 Most Useless Inventions Ever
Graham4405

These seem to be more gimmicks than useless inventions. Would anyone be dumb enough to buy them?

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  railblogger Chief Commissioner

Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
The Olympics/Commonwealth Games.
  allan Chief Commissioner

The Olympics/Commonwealth Games.
railblogger

Too right...
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Useless Box



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqAUmgE3WyM
  allan Chief Commissioner

Too right...
allan

Olympics, yes, (business masquerading as fun) but the Commonwealth games have elevated themselves from mediocrity by the simple expedient of integrating the "para-sports" with the able-bodied sports.

To put this into perspective, go to http://www.news.com.au/sport/commonwealth-games/maddison-elliott-breaks-world-record-at-commonwealth-games-2014-in-swimming-for-australia/story-fnnx3zsr-1227002303290

The video at the top of the page is a "must see".

Maddison Elliot was the winner, but cop the respect paid to the Kenyan competitor by the crowd!

As for Maddison, a true winner. "I walk a bit funny..."

And, as for categorising the competitors, it'd be so much easier to handicap just about anything else.
  wurx Lithgovian Ambassador-at-Large

Location: The mystical lost principality of Daptovia
....CD Stackers ......... My FG falcon came with one!
Pressman

Any wonder then, that there won't be no more Falcodores in two years - when the competition cars all have bluetooth (and docks before that).
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Any wonder then, that there won't be no more Falcodores in two years - when the competition cars all have bluetooth (and docks before that).
"wurx"

It is a 6 stack CD player with MP3 format, Bluetooth and pin jack input for devices. Personally I like it better than what's in the latest Camry I recently rented from Hertz in Perth.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
The controls and/or the programming associated therewith for inflight entertainment on aircraft.
  Camster Chief Commissioner

Location: Geelong
Myki? No. Only joking, even though apparently no Melbournian will say "Myki is not that bad".
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
The controls and/or the programming associated therewith for inflight entertainment on aircraft.
YM-Mundrabilla

Why would you say that?
  wurx Lithgovian Ambassador-at-Large

Location: The mystical lost principality of Daptovia
It is a 6 stack CD player with MP3 format, Bluetooth and pin jack input for devices. Personally I like it better than what's in the latest Camry I recently rented from Hertz in Perth.
Pressman

As a fellow chook tin owner & driver, not putting Vladimir (Poo Tin) on your FG; rather I'm dirty on Frod for allowing (and helping) the chook tin to die, by not having these fandooglies available sooner, not to mention delaying the introduction of the 4 pot chook tin till 2yrs ago, not making a LHD version for export, and not offering a diseasel option.

Except for the LHD issue, similar could be said of the General and footballmeatpieskangaraoosandholdencars.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
As a fellow chook tin owner & driver, not putting Vladimir (Poo Tin) on your FG; rather I'm dirty on Frod for allowing (and helping) the chook tin to die, by not having these fandooglies available sooner, not to mention delaying the introduction of the 4 pot chook tin till 2yrs ago, not making a LHD version for export, and not offering a diseasel option.

Except for the LHD issue, similar could be said of the General and footballmeatpieskangaraoosandholdencars.
"wurx"


Likewise I'm dirty on them too.

I did read a while ago that years back when Ford Australia wanted to export aussie made models Detroit put the kybosh on it doing so.
"Only American made vehicles will be the only ones exported!"
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Why would you say that?
TheBlacksmith

Probably a combination of jetlag, equipment response, intolerance, stupidity and impatience, I am told, (haha) and not necessarily in that order.

Having just spent Friday and Saturday nights fiddling with the bloody things on an A340 and B777 I am sure that the break of gauge still exists.

After all of the above, the best thing that I found to watch was 'Simon's Cat' which is worth a Google if you want a laugh.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Probably a combination of jetlag, equipment response, intolerance, stupidity and impatience, I am told, (haha) and not necessarily in that order.

Having just spent Friday and Saturday nights fiddling with the bloody things on an A340 and B777
YM-Mundrabilla

Speaking of the A340, this probably comes close to being useless. A340 Planes less than 10 years old now have less than scrap value. Emirates scraped one as they couldn't sell theirs, they struggle to even sell the parts and as far as I have heard have not yet justified the effort.

The A340 came too late, tt served a very short lived purpose. I love the look of it, but even Airbus is struggling to find a market for them as refurbished Airbus specials.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Speaking of the A340, this probably comes close to being useless. A340 Planes less than 10 years old now have less than scrap value. Emirates scraped one as they couldn't sell theirs, they struggle to even sell the parts and as far as I have heard have not yet justified the effort.

The A340 came too late, tt served a very short lived purpose. I love the look of it, but even Airbus is struggling to find a market for them as refurbished Airbus specials.
RTT_Rules

The A340 was introduced at a time (early 1990's) when twin engined aircraft had to be within 120 minutes of an airport where they could safely land in case of one engine failing - known as ETOPS (It is almost universally 180 now). 4 Engine aircraft had very few restrictions, and thus the 747-400 in particular (because of its range) was the preferred long haul aircraft. The A340 was the Airbus competitor, and shared the same fuselage as the A330, just with two extra engines (and associated fuel use).

Later on, ETOPS was extended to 180 minutes in most cases, thus making twin engined aircraft more popular due to their fuel efficiency. The A340 and the 747 suffered as a result, though the latter hung on longer due to its increased capacity.

Even now, there are some routes that twin engined aircraft are disadvantaged by the 180 minutes rule, and V-Australia had this problem when they were flying from Melbourne to Johannesburg a few years ago (they have since quit the route). Qantas fly from Sydney to Johannesburg with a 747-400 via the "Great Circle" which is the shortest route and takes them down to about 60 deg south near Heard Island, but V-A with a 777 could not go that far south as it would have put them outside the 180 minutes rule - it added about 2 hours to their flight. There would be similar issues with flying to Santiago.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Most of my recent long haul travel seems to be on the A340 with SAS and, more recently Swiss who have replacement 777s on order to replace their A340s.

I have no real problem with the A340 as an aircraft but would if given the choice go for a 747 every time. The A340s seem quieter than the 777 and somewhat small inside by comparison. On the other hand there are fewer passengers to clutter the boarding and unloading.

It seems that the only benefit of the A340 to many airlines these days is that they should be just about (if not fully) paid for and this is perhaps an offset to the cost of the additional fuel that they burn. As has been said, they look great, but inside they are a bit 'pokey' (overhead bins especially) when compared with a 777.

Still if you get there safely not much else matters I suppose!
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
I like the look of a A340, but the only flight I have done was Dubai to Amman and return via Royal Jordan, which is barely 4hr and near 100% over land so really a complete waste for that bird. I assume Royal Jordan were flying them because they were cheap to buy.

The B747 will always be more popular than the A340 due to its freight capacity and/or conversion to full freighter option. Reading Wiki it would appear alot of operators have been burned on the A340 in recent years. One comment that by 2023 it will be worth less than $10m. My Emirates sources say its worth less than that now. Maybe the 2nd hand buyers get more value out of them. It would also appear that Airbus and CFM have also lost money on them due to the original financing agreements for many sales. CFM are finding innovative ways to get 2nd hand parts for the engines and re-certify them cheaply.

The issue is what is their future? You would think planes with low km, young of age and low cycles due to their nature of being extra long haul would be of value. But they are not. They are unwanted by the start up or discount airlines as long haul is usually not their bread and butter. Emirates, Singapore and Etihad and a few other original large fleet operators through them at low volume longer haul/start-up routes, but the aging B777's and A330's are proving better/cheaper and hence why the aging, but still serviceable B747-400's are being mothballed. But as above at least there is the option of freighter conversion for the B747, not so much the A340.

I looked up in the air forums about A340 to A330 conversion (yes alot of people have asked that question) and this is basically a non-event.

The aging Gen 1 & 2 777's are probably destroying any economical senerio that they can come up with to make the A340 viable. Even Boeing is putting deals on the table to encourage airlines to buy a 777 prior to conversion to the 777-X in 2019. +2020 there will be a massive world fleet of something like +1500 non 777-X's to provide cheap 2nd hand long haul planes for many years to come.

I suspect AB's worse fear is that by 2020's there will be very few still flying and if so probably in limited charter, govt and military use, thus making the plane officially a lemon financially, even if it looks great taking off. The few B747-8's being sold have a brighter future.

regards
Shane
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Another contender - the yellow notices announcing "Baby on Board" or "Child on Board" stuck on cars' rear windows. Absolutely useless.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Another contender - the yellow notices announcing "Baby on Board" or "Child on Board" stuck on cars' rear windows. Absolutely useless.
"Valvegear"

Well of course one should remember that placing said sign in the back window of the car will cause that paraletic mindless drunk driver to suddenly have a fit of the common sense and swerve at the last second and not kill all the occupants of said car!
  Gayspie Assistant Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
CD players are useless aren't they?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
CD players are useless aren't they?
Heath Loxton

Why? What do you use instead if you want reasonable sound?
  Graham4405 Minister for Railways

Location: Dalby Qld
Why? What do you use instead if you want reasonable sound?
YM-Mundrabilla

A Bluray player? It can play multiple formats instead of just one! Smile
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
How about a Palestinian rocket? It's most effective use is as a personal property eliminator, you fire it at someone else's home and in turn yours disappears into some rubble and ether.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
How about a Palestinian rocket? It's most effective use is as a personal property eliminator, you fire it at someone else's home and in turn yours disappears into some rubble and ether.
Aaron

Yes, and there is a significant difference in the targeting ability of the two. Yours goes anywhere, but the return fire is exceedingly accurate.
  TheBlacksmith Chief Commissioner

Location: Ankh Morpork
Another contender - the yellow notices announcing "Baby on Board" or "Child on Board" stuck on cars' rear windows. Absolutely useless.
Valvegear

Not really if you consider their original intention, which was to alert emergency personnel to the possible presence of a baby in the vehicle if it was involved in a wreck.

However they now seem to be a method of advertising to the world that the people who own the car are capable of reproduction, a fact that is generally not of much interest to anyone else.

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