Murray Basin standardisation

 
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Murray Basin Rail Project Mark2 gets funding:
https://www.stockandland.com.au/story/7057363/federal-basin-rail-rescue-package/?cs=4786

A few other interesting bits and pieces on Manang line and yet another business case for further Standardisation.

Sponsored advertisement

  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
$ 5 million for SG planning!
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Well this is not what I'd expected for the end of 2020 to bring.  

I do hope that there is money for the SG through Ballarat to cut the travel time/distance down.  That is key to increasing productivity of the lines.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Well this is not what I'd expected for the end of 2020 to bring.  

I do hope that there is money for the SG through Ballarat to cut the travel time/distance down.  That is key to increasing productivity of the lines.
james.au
Nope.  I doubt that will happen and it's not going to with the latest funding.

Main scope of Mk2 is to increase capacity and flexibility of what's already SG and BG.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
$ 5 million for SG planning!
YM-Mundrabilla

incredible
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/federal-government-comes-to-the-party-on-murray-basin-rail states

"The Federal Government's $195.2 million rescue package is funding the most extensive package of works recommended by the revised business case and the Victorian Government, which includes remedying key issues caused by works to date," Mr McCormack said.
Somebody


Speaks of the revised business case which only looks to address

This does not sit right.  The works are planned to correct works vline had already been provided fundig for to $33m so this is double dipping again.

The announcement follows temporary speed restrictions, on the section south of Ultima, due to the poor condition of the track. Trains are now restricted to 20 kilometres an hour, for the entire 53km section, between Korong Vale value to around Quambatook, to minimise the impact on track infrastructure.. A V/Line spokesman said a combination of high autumn rainfall and winter, and a hot dry spring, had further affected the condition of parts of the Mangantang freight line, between Quambatook and Korong Vale.
Somebody

This would be surely maintenance V/Line should already be doing.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Ok, if its just what is in the executive summary then this is what it gets:

1 Minimum Scope
Business Case development and sleeper storage costs
Ararat Junction: complete signalling works
Ararat to Maryborough – re-rail 88km of track

2 Complete outstanding MBRP Stage 2 works and provide speed and loading benefits
Maryborough Yard: complete signalling works

3 Provide the capacity expected from MBRP
Passing loops to enable:
• 1200m passing opportunities on SG
• Passing opportunities on BG
• Better interface with ARTC network
Review and implement ETO
Development of DTPOS

4 Provide capacity for horticulture export growth
Merbein siding extension
Reinstate Road 2 at Donald Yard

5 Improve operations (capital)
Dunolly junction - Replace gauge splitters with turnouts and re-signal
Re-signal Ouyen yard

6 Remove speed restrictions on BG Network
Re-sleeper sections of Dunolly to Sea Lake & Manangatang to maintain line
speed.

7 Reduce journey times
Re-sleeper sections of Yelta Line with existing concrete sleepers
Ouyen to Murrayville -Re-sleeper & rail adjustment (109km)

8 Reduce freight operating costs
Donald Yard - mobile refuelling point with capture and treatment of spills

9 Enable heavier locos
Structures assessment to enable 134T locomotives

But the DPMs announcement is talking about full standardisation with a $5m funding amount from the Feds being asked to be matched by Vic to plan it out.

https://minister.infrastructure.gov.au/mccormack/media-release/australian-government-rescue-package-victorias-murray-basin-freight-rail-project

  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
James can i please ask wat is the ARTC interface work?

• Better interface with ARTC network
Review and implement ETO
Development of DTPOS

  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
James can i please ask wat is the ARTC interface work?

• Better interface with ARTC network
Review and implement ETO
Development of DTPOS

NSWGR8022
Not entirely sure what ETO is but I suspect that DTPOS will be putting the track onto the same train planning/pathing/booking system as is used on the ARTC networks (and John Holland, Sydney Trains, perhaps others?).  So that one path can be booked say from Mildura to Moree.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Looking through the summaries and various articles I think this dining is more about fixing poor maintenance.

The only real work which again will close the network iOS the retailing between Ararat and Maryborough.

No mention of the much needed additional roads at Maryborough being put back but Donald gets a removed toad back
And a fuel point.

Ouyen does not get their siding back.

Is the fuel point at Maryborough still in use ?
  3550Rebel Beginner
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Looking through the summaries and various articles I think this dining is more about fixing poor maintenance.

The only real work which again will close the network iOS the retailing between Ararat and Maryborough.

No mention of the much needed additional roads at Maryborough being put back but Donald gets a removed toad back
And a fuel point.

Ouyen does not get their siding back.

Is the fuel point at Maryborough still in use ?
freightgate

re-railing (i assume you mean rerailing and not retailing) is sure to shutdown the SG network for what 1 month at least?
  bingley hall Minister for Railways

Location: Last train to Skaville
Looking through the summaries and various articles I think this dining is more about fixing poor maintenance.

The only real work which again will close the network iOS the retailing between Ararat and Maryborough.

No mention of the much needed additional roads at Maryborough being put back but Donald gets a removed toad back
And a fuel point.

Ouyen does not get their siding back.

Is the fuel point at Maryborough still in use ?

re-railing (i assume you mean rerailing and not retailing) is sure to shutdown the SG network for what 1 month at least?
NSWGR8022

Depends - can be done between train windows as ARTC did when re-railing Port Augusta to Tarcoola a few years back.

It's not exactly the busiest section of track in Victoria.
  lkernan Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
6 Remove speed restrictions on BG Network
Re-sleeper sections of Dunolly to Sea Lake & Manangatang to maintain line
speed.

james.au
What's the bet they put in brand new Broad Gauge only non convertible concrete sleepers?
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Looking through the summaries and various articles I think this dining is more about fixing poor maintenance.

The only real work which again will close the network iOS the retailing between Ararat and Maryborough.

No mention of the much needed additional roads at Maryborough being put back but Donald gets a removed toad back
And a fuel point.

Ouyen does not get their siding back.

Is the fuel point at Maryborough still in use ?

re-railing (i assume you mean rerailing and not retailing) is sure to shutdown the SG network for what 1 month at least?

Depends - can be done between train windows as ARTC did when re-railing Port Augusta to Tarcoola a few years back.

It's not exactly the busiest section of track in Victoria.
bingley hall

Less than 10 trains a week at the moment from Dunnoly to Mildura the last few weeks.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Could Ararat-Maryborough (if set up well) theoretically handle all the trains that could operate on the Mildura/Sea Lake/Manangatang lines as SG?
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
Could Ararat-Maryborough (if set up well) theoretically handle all the trains that could operate on the Mildura/Sea Lake/Manangatang lines as SG?
james.au

Considering the Bg trains are going to Geelong I don;t think so myself.  It is also a long way to get to the port.
  Lockspike Chief Commissioner

Depends - can be done between train windows as ARTC did when re-railing Port Augusta to Tarcoola a few years back.

It's not exactly the busiest section of track in Victoria.
bingley hall
Rerailing can easily be done between trains. Resleepering - can be done but not as easily.
A rerailing gang can replace a leg (say 90 - 120m) in the time taken for resleepering machines to 'put on'.
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Released again, maybe for the last time??
Could Ararat-Maryborough (if set up well) theoretically handle all the trains that could operate on the Mildura/Sea Lake/Manangatang lines as SG?
james.au
Thus removing guage convert Maryborough/Gherrnghap out of the equation for now.

Not the silliest idea I've seen here.

Gives breather to do a proper re-build on the direct route, whilst traffic is going the long way around.

Ps: the long way hasn't put the fruity out of business.

cheers
John
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Depends - can be done between train windows as ARTC did when re-railing Port Augusta to Tarcoola a few years back.

It's not exactly the busiest section of track in Victoria.
Rerailing can easily be done between trains. Resleepering - can be done but not as easily.
A rerailing gang can replace a leg (say 90 - 120m) in the time taken for resleepering machines to 'put on'.
Lockspike

There is no scope for any loops between Ararat and Maryborough to be reactivated in the summary, missed opportunity?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

The business plan does talk about a possible new loop near Avoca.

Regardless, Sea Lake and Manang conversion are contingent on SG thru Ballarat to be of any value.
  Bonzel Junior Train Controller
  Galron Chief Commissioner

Location: Werribee, Vic
Depends - can be done between train windows as ARTC did when re-railing Port Augusta to Tarcoola a few years back.

It's not exactly the busiest section of track in Victoria.
Rerailing can easily be done between trains. Resleepering - can be done but not as easily.
A rerailing gang can replace a leg (say 90 - 120m) in the time taken for resleepering machines to 'put on'.

There is no scope for any loops between Ararat and Maryborough to be reactivated in the summary, missed opportunity?
bevans
I thought the proposal put forward and seemingly funded did just that? kinda. new loop to go in about half way was in what was on the table.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
The original Business Case never envisaged Maryborough-Ararat to be part of the long term route - that was always Maryborough-Ballarat-Gheringhap.  So no loops mentioned there at all.  The current mini business case doesnt talk about it in any specific way except that on SG there will be 1200m loops.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Could Ararat-Maryborough (if set up well) theoretically handle all the trains that could operate on the Mildura/Sea Lake/Manangatang lines as SG?
Thus removing guage convert Maryborough/Gherrnghap out of the equation for now.

Not the silliest idea I've seen here.

Gives breather to do a proper re-build on the direct route, whilst traffic is going the long way around.

Ps: the long way hasn't put the fruity out of business.

cheers
John
justarider
Well, i wasn't suggesting that it should, more questioning if it could and thinking it couldn't meaning MB-Geringhap would be needed if SL and MG lines went SG.

Re the fruity, do we know that there are not any compensation payments given the extra distance that has to be travelled?

Sponsored advertisement

Display from: