Jumbos are still going

 
  Lt. Commander Data Station Master

Location: Stobie Poll City (Adelaide).
I don't think the noise of the diesel 2000s will bother locals on the Steamranger Line, when there are properly loud steam engines thundering past as well. In comparison the 2000s will be quiet.

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  hosk1956 Deputy Commissioner

Location: no where near gunzels
I don't think the noise of the diesel 2000s will bother locals on the Steamranger Line, when there are properly loud steam engines thundering past as well. In comparison the 2000s will be quiet.
Lt. Commander Data
But to most people the passing of a steam engine is wistful and romantic and reminds one of a bygone era we wish for, the passing of a Jumbo is just like living next door to a freeway.
And, at rest a steam engine is virtually silent apart from the kathump of the compressor or at worst the wine of the turbo generator, a Jumbo at idle is as noisy as one at full noise, that will pee the locals off real quick.

Wayne
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
2109 departed Dry Creek for Goolwa depot (via Truro, Sedan, Murray Bridge & Callington) this morning, 2010 should be leaving tomorrow.
  redhen Station Staff

what time are they leaving  Dry Creek tomorrow
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

And, at rest a steam engine is virtually silent apart from the kathump of the compressor or at worst the wine of the turbo generator, a Jumbo at idle is as noisy as one at full noise, that will pee the locals off real quick.
hosk1956
Nearby residents need not hold too much fear, the amount of Jumbo running should be naturally restricted by the practicalities of motivating volunteers.

There's no way that the Jumbo set will have a better ratio of time spent playing trains to time spent doing mundane maintenance than the more conventional DMUs already operated by Steamranger.

I wonder if the BWT Bluebirds would be a better acquisition for Steamranger in the long run? They would be much lighter on the track, less idiosyncratic and historically appropriate for running on the line to Victor Harbor.
  Walter Junior Train Controller

Location: Lurking, but not very well
what time are they leaving  Dry Creek tomorrow
redhen
Rumour I heard from a friend who saw it on Facebook is 9 am.

Nearby residents need not hold too much fear, the amount of Jumbo running should be naturally restricted by the practicalities of motivating volunteers.
There's no way that the Jumbo set will have a better ratio of time spent playing trains to time spent doing mundane maintenance than the more conventional DMUs already operated by Steamranger.
I wonder if the BWT Bluebirds would be a better acquisition for Steamranger in the long run? They would be much lighter on the track, less idiosyncratic and historically appropriate for running on the line to Victor Harbor.
justapassenger
Just as some have an irrational obsessive hatred for Jumbos, others have an equally irrational and obsessive liking for them. It may not be that much harder than usual to find volunteers. As someone with an irrational liking* for them, I'm glad that a couple more will be with us in the future. Bluebirds would of course be nice too, let's hope for that one day!

Axle load is something that is thrown around a bit in this thread, but is it that bad? A 2000 weighs about 68t, so 17t/axle. Comrails gives the axle load for a double ended 930 as 17.7t. So if 958 hasn't broken all of the track, 2010 won't either.

* They may have had a habit of skidding to a stop 10 minutes late, then leaving again in a large black cloud of poorly burnt fuel, but I miss the quiet ride of the 2100s, the 'Temporary' Speed Restriction spotting window at the front, and the good padding on the seats!
  Walter Junior Train Controller

Location: Lurking, but not very well
The truck carrying 2010 left Dry Creek around 9, but apparently had a hard time on some hills because of the weight. It's now parked on the side of the road between the freeway and Strathalbyn, and will be continuing to Goolwa tomorrow some time. (It's being watched, so hopefully vandals and any Jumbo hating types will be kept at bay!)

Crappy old camera photo:


Also, 2109 was in Goolwa Depot this afternoon coupled to 507.
  ARG706 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA
Will these be getting a repaint at all? They'll look better in their original livery imho.
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Will these be getting a repaint at all? They'll look better in their original livery imho.
ARG706
That will be up to the new owners/caretakers
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

Will these be getting a repaint at all? They'll look better in their original livery imho.
ARG706
I hope not.

Any thing but the original orange. Orange was in in the 70s but passé by the time the 2000s came out.

Perhaps SHR could use their own livery, however I think repainting will be well down the list of "to dos" and filed in the round tuit bin.
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

I hope not.

Any thing but the original orange. Orange was in in the 70s but passé by the time the 2000s came out.
steam4ian
But at least it was only just out of date then (the livery was probably decided in about 1975-76) and nowhere near as bad as the use of orange on the DEMUs which came much later.

The poor paint was certainly a factor in it looking poor, it looked faded and grubby even when freshly cleaned up. With a more glossy orange paint and a bit of black trim along the edges of the orange, it could have gone some way to looking decent.

At least the original livery did one thing right - the low-height windows and the 'window band' livery gave it a good lengthening effect when viewed side-on. The DEMUs with their quite tall windows don't have this effect, but it has been done right with the excellent livery of the A-City. I wonder how good the 2000s could have looked with the window band being black or navy rather than orange?

If the Steamranger set stays in the yellow Adelaide Metro livery (which is even less historic than the Steamranger website design!) and runs trips to Mt Barker, the bus variant of it could be simultaneously observed in 'active' use at the interchange right outside the station. I wonder if DPTI have placed any restrictions on doing that while the yellow livery is still in use on the buses?

Perhaps SHR could use their own livery, however I think repainting will be well down the list of "to dos" and filed in the round tuit bin.
steam4ian
Unless someone decides to make a nuisance of themselves by bequeathing money to SHR for use only on repainting the 2000 set.

Is there any historical significance of 2006 & 2112? e.g they were the last in revenue service, or are they just the best condition/ easiest to give away? Don't get me wrong, I'm relieved they're being offered for preservation, and beggars can't be choosers.... (any 600, S or 720 would've been nice!) but if 2000 + 2100 aren't scrapped yet it would be good to have the class leaders?
Streamliner
I just noticed this post.

Along with 2010 & 2109 which have gone to Steamranger, 2006 & 2112 made up one of the two four car consists which were the last ones operational in August last year. I expect that, as the last operational set, they were also in the best mechanical condition (important for Steamranger, perhaps not for Port Dock) and probably not among those unceremoniously dumped in the dirt at Dry Creek in December last year.

I'm not aware of any others having had any genuine historical significance (e.g. use as the Royal Train, first/last train on a line, named after a significant person or used in a film etc) so the last ones in service seem as good a method of choosing as arbitrarily picking those which were assigned numbers 2001 & 2101.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
One test for Steamranger's Jumbo set will be to see if they can avoid hitting the platform at Port Elliot. At just over 25 metres long, it could be tight...
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Great to see a few photos on Facebook of Steamrangers Jumbos together at Goolwa depot with loco 507 & Redhen 412 close by, would almost feel like Adelaide yard in the early 80's if not for the AdMet livery.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
With the NRM's set (2006-2112), I'm surprised it hasn't been delivered to the museum yet given DPTI (or whoever runs the show these days) wanted all the Jumbos out of Dry Creek by the end of June, unless there's issues in a few areas?
  steam4ian Chief Commissioner

One test for Steamranger's Jumbo set will be to see if they can avoid hitting the platform at Port Elliot. At just over 25 metres long, it could be tight...
greasyrhys
Rhys

If the Blue Birds could get through the 2000s should.

Ian
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
One test for Steamranger's Jumbo set will be to see if they can avoid hitting the platform at Port Elliot. At just over 25 metres long, it could be tight...
Rhys

If the Blue Birds could get through the 2000s should.

Ian
steam4ian
Hopefully that's the case although the 100/250 cars were 23.85 metres long & 2.97 metres wide compared to the Jumbos 25.5 metres & 3.188 metres respectively.
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
Found out on Facebook that 2112-2006 will be off to their new home this Sunday (July 10th).

Planned timetable is:
Dry Creek Railcar Depot dep 1340hrs
Adelaide arr 1355
dep 1430
NRM interface arr 1450
Run around and shunt
2x3000 to return to ARS/Dry Ck as available
  loco958 Station Master

Found out on Facebook that 2112-2006 will be off to their new home this Sunday (July 10th).

Planned timetable is:
Dry Creek Railcar Depot dep 1340hrs
Adelaide arr 1355
dep 1430
NRM interface arr 1450
Run around and shunt
2x3000 to return to ARS/Dry Ck as available
greasyrhys

Photos please if anyone can.

Thankyou
  Lt. Commander Data Station Master

Location: Stobie Poll City (Adelaide).
Are the Steamranger 2000s at MtBarker yet? I had a bit of a look yesterday, and couldn't see them (although it is likely they would be in the workshops, and I didn't look there).
  Pressman Spirit of the Vine

Location: Wherever the Tin Chook or Qantas takes me
Are the Steamranger 2000s at MtBarker yet? I had a bit of a look yesterday, and couldn't see them (although it is likely they would be in the workshops, and I didn't look there).
Lt. Commander Data
Reported earlier they are at Goolwa Depot (left Dry Creek on 15th Jun)
Great to see a few photos on Facebook of Steamrangers Jumbos together at Goolwa depot with loco 507 & Redhen 412 close by, would almost feel like Adelaide yard in the early 80's if not for the AdMet livery.
"greasyrhys"
  greasyrhys Chief Commissioner

Location: MacDonald Park, SA
2006-2112 arrived safely at the NRM just after 3pm behind 3003-3130, was placed between the Fluck Pavilion & goods shed in front of 517.
  jonasboi Station Staff

Location: Adelaide, South Australia
I came across this flickr page that shows images of the Jumbos being built. https://www.flickr.com/photos/cpdbear/5452816915/in/photostream/

What happened to number 2008? It was in an accident by the looks of it.
  Walter Junior Train Controller

Location: Lurking, but not very well
What happened to number 2008? It was in an accident by the looks of it.
jonasboi

On 10/5/82 the 2006 hrs STA train from North Gawler departed Greenfields station at 2041 hrs and ran into the back of No. 806 Goods from Angaston which was standing on the main line waiting to enter the Dry Creek yard. To enter the Dry Creek Yard from the north a train must come to a halt and one of the crew has to get out and throw the switch over to allow the Goods to proceed. The STA train comprised cars 2008 and 2115 and the force of the impact caused substantial damage to both cars. Fortunately for STA only 10 passengers were on the train and most of them received minor injuries. There would certainly have been worse injuries had the train been operating in the peak hour. The brakevan 8348, was not damaged although most of the internal equipment in the van was dislodged. AN and STA crews had cleared the line by 0400 hrs the next morning. The impact derailed the railcars and when they had been rerailed they were taken to the Comeng factory at Dry Creek. The damage was sufficient to put these two cars out of traffic for some time. Trailer car 2113, casualty from the last STA-AN collision on 19/10/81, is nearing a return to traffic following the completion of repairs. Cause of the collision is unknown.
The Recorder, June 1982
  ARG706 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA
What was the deal with 2009? I know this was out of service along with 5 of the others by the early 2000s. From what I heard, it had a transmission failure, but did this justify it being effectively retired?

Also, why did 2006, 2112, 2103, 2104, and 2116 sit at the western end of the depot for years? Does anyone know of any further details regarding this?

Was it expensive to get these railcars back in service? Obviously not as much compared to buying new railcars. What kind of work was required?
  nm39 Chief Commissioner

Location: By a road taking pictures
What was the deal with 2009? I know this was out of service along with 5 of the others by the early 2000s. From what I heard, it had a transmission failure, but did this justify it being effectively retired?

Also, why did 2006, 2112, 2103, 2104, and 2116 sit at the western end of the depot for years? Does anyone know of any further details regarding this?

Was it expensive to get these railcars back in service? Obviously not as much compared to buying new railcars. What kind of work was required?
ARG706
The 2000 class railcars were expensive to run and they were slugs of things to get the speed up. Both factors resulted in them being assigned to peak hour express services with the 3000 class used as a preference. As a result, any 2000 class railcar that suffered a failure that required more than a little attention was held in the yard for spare part salvage to keep enough working sets going.

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