RP 3.10 Bugs and Feedback

 
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
bevans
Dear Administrators,

I am continually frustrated by losing my posts when composing an extended response which is timed out when I submit, with the message "no post mode specified".  I have never encountered this anywhere else on the internet.  Is it such a difficult thing to correct?  It's getting to the stage when I can't be bothered with this site any longer.  Regards.
Transtopic

Time out please help me to understand this more.  You type the forum post when you hit submit what happens?
Bevans, try itself and see how it frustrates Railage posts. You need to type a reply longer than a single paragraph. You also need to take time during the post to double check some details and hit submit when you are finished. Then you get exactly what Transtopic described.

It has been mentioned many times before on Railpage over the years, so not a new problem!!!!!!!

The only solution I have is to copy all the post before I submit and then paste that to start again. Very frustrating compared to other forums.

I realise Facebook and Twitter type of people love very short posts so they would not notice this Railpage forum problem that causes problems for posts that include extensive details of a technical or historical nature in the post.

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  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
@Transtopic and @petan, are you using quick reply or the whole editor?
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
@Transtopic and @petan, are you using quick reply or the whole editor?
s3_gunzel
Happens on either method.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
@Transtopic and @petan, are you using quick reply or the whole editor?
s3_gunzel
I notice you have the @ in front of my name, which I associate with Facebook or Twitter style operators, as I am pre Twitter and Facebook. Are you using the usual traditional forum format or Facebook / Twitter to reply to me?
  Transtopic Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
I usually find that if I take longer than 15-20 minutes to submit my post, whether replying directly to a previous poster or by Quick Reply as Petan confirmed, then I lose everything and get the no post mode specified message.  I then have to start all over again trying to recollect my previous thoughts.  Sometimes I just give up in frustration.

I have resorted to submitting a post early before I finish what I was intending to say and then come back to edit it to complete my post.  Even then, if I'm not quick enough, I'll lose the edited post and it comes back to what I initially submitted.  At least I still save something.

It would be helpful if the option was available to save drafts which you can come back to later before submitting.  This is a common feature on other forums.
  KRviator Moderator

Location: Up the front
@Transtopic and @petan, are you using quick reply or the whole editor?
I notice you have the @ in front of my name, which I associate with Facebook or Twitter style operators, as I am pre Twitter and Facebook. Are you using the usual traditional forum format or Facebook / Twitter to reply to me?
petan
The "@" tag is enabled in RP as well, nothing to do with YouTwitFace. Using it here on RP allows a reader to click on it and be taken to your RP member profile.
  WimbledonW Chief Train Controller

Location: Sydney
To avoid losing some lengthy text on Railpage to avoid RP’s unfriendly
“Quit-no-save-time-out” problem, I sometimes edit the text off line in Microsoft Word, and copy (Ctrl-C) and paste (Ctrl-V) the text into RP when finished. A problem may be that RP uses the fonts used by MSW, but at least the original text is not lost.


That said, RP should save a backup copy of the text when a "Quit-no-save" option is exercised. Optus Webmail has a similar "Quit-no-save" problem, but at least you can save a Draft copy, so long as you remember to do so in time.


FYI.
  Transtopic Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney
To avoid losing some lengthy text on Railpage to avoid RP’s unfriendly
“Quit-no-save-time-out” problem, I sometimes edit the text off line in Microsoft Word, and copy (Ctrl-C) and paste (Ctrl-V) the text into RP when finished. A problem may be that RP uses the fonts used by MSW, but at least the original text is not lost.


That said, RP should save a backup copy of the text when a "Quit-no-save" option is exercised. Optus Webmail has a similar "Quit-no-save" problem, but at least you can save a Draft copy, so long as you remember to do so in time.


FYI.
WimbledonW
Thanks.  I have done that a few times, but it's still not ideal, particularly when you want to refer to a previous post to construct a response.  RP isn't particularly user friendly IMO if you want to submit a lengthy response.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
@Transtopic and @petan, are you using quick reply or the whole editor?
I notice you have the @ in front of my name, which I associate with Facebook or Twitter style operators, as I am pre Twitter and Facebook. Are you using the usual traditional forum format or Facebook / Twitter to reply to me?
The "@" tag is enabled in RP as well, nothing to do with YouTwitFace. Using it here on RP allows a reader to click on it and be taken to your RP member profile.
KRviator
I was of the impression it was also meant to issue a notification saying one has been tagged. Ergo, the tag was to get their attention.

I am beginning to suspect it is a form expiry issue.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
@Transtopic and @petan, are you using quick reply or the whole editor?
I notice you have the @ in front of my name, which I associate with Facebook or Twitter style operators, as I am pre Twitter and Facebook. Are you using the usual traditional forum format or Facebook / Twitter to reply to me?
The "@" tag is enabled in RP as well, nothing to do with YouTwitFace. Using it here on RP allows a reader to click on it and be taken to your RP member profile.
I was of the impression it was also meant to issue a notification saying one has been tagged. Ergo, the tag was to get their attention.
s3_gunzel
I had that impression too, but it doesn't seem to happen. Also if there is a space in the username it doesn't work and sometimes it just doesn't work... @s3_gunzel for a test...
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
No. I didn’t get a notification.

How depressing!
  8502 Junior Train Controller

It would be nice to see the embedded images, rather than a black rectangle with three dots in the middle.

Stupid part is it would be far easier to just show the linked image rather than the processing it does to get to that black box.
lkernan

These issues are the same for most website as the new way of calling images is to use the https protocol and not http.  I have asked the server admin to install a cert for the https for the dams server and this should fix the problem.
  8502 Junior Train Controller

It's certainly the best it has been for some time. But it has been like this before and always seems to deteriorate over time. Most other sites I visit don't seem to have these problems. Perhaps it's time for a ground up re-write or at least a major revamp?
Graham4405

I have been tasked by bevans to re platform the site in between the work I am doing for him on other projects.  I will be looking for system admins to assist if they can with some testing.
  8502 Junior Train Controller

I also have plans to replatform the Railpage system to a new better and more recent and maintained code base.  I will be looking for users to assist with testing on both fronts.
Good luck! I’ve often toyed with the idea myself of rebuilding Railpage from the floor, but I have some serious time constraints. Get in touch when you need some testing done and I’ll give it a whirl for you.
s3_gunzel

Ready to start talking I shall PM you.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
It's certainly the best it has been for some time. But it has been like this before and always seems to deteriorate over time. Most other sites I visit don't seem to have these problems. Perhaps it's time for a ground up re-write or at least a major revamp?

I have been tasked by bevans to re platform the site in between the work I am doing for him on other projects.  I will be looking for system admins to assist if they can with some testing.
8502
Can you please keep us informed in the Developer Updates thread? That would be awesome.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
I also have plans to replatform the Railpage system to a new better and more recent and maintained code base.  I will be looking for users to assist with testing on both fronts.
Good luck! I’ve often toyed with the idea myself of rebuilding Railpage from the floor, but I have some serious time constraints. Get in touch when you need some testing done and I’ll give it a whirl for you.

Ready to start talking I shall PM you.
8502
I'm always ready
  8502 Junior Train Controller

I also have plans to replatform the Railpage system to a new better and more recent and maintained code base.  I will be looking for users to assist with testing on both fronts.
Good luck! I’ve often toyed with the idea myself of rebuilding Railpage from the floor, but I have some serious time constraints. Get in touch when you need some testing done and I’ll give it a whirl for you.

Ready to start talking I shall PM you.
I'm always ready
s3_gunzel

I have written a PM to you regarding the new development work.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
For the last couple of days I've been getting

This page isn't working at the moment
http://www.railpage.com.au can't currently handle this request.
HTTP ERROR 500

when visiting. A refresh (F5) gets me here.
  8502 Junior Train Controller

For the last couple of days I've been getting

This page isn't working at the moment
http://www.railpage.com.au can't currently handle this request.
HTTP ERROR 500

when visiting. A refresh (F5) gets me here.
Graham4405

This being the main page?
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
This being the main page?
8502


I've been getting white screens on the first instance of loading pages here on Railpage. Any pages.

Once refreshed, it works fine.

Firefox on both macOS 11.3 and iPadOS/iOS 14.5.
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
I've also been getting the same thing on my iPad. But also on my Android Phone as well. It gives the error code: 500. If anybody can decode it would be extremely beneficial. Not just for me...
  rwatts Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide SA
I've been getting white screens on the first instance of loading pages here on Railpage. Any pages.

Once refreshed, it works fine.

Firefox on both macOS 11.3 and iPadOS/iOS 14.5.
s3_gunzel
Ditto here also on Windows 10.

Firefox 89.0b6 (64-bit) - Greater than 50% of times.

Yet to reproduce on Opera 77.0.4032.0 (64 Bit)

Richard.
  rwatts Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide SA
I've also been getting the same thing on my iPad. But also on my Android Phone as well. It gives the error code: 500. If anybody can decode it would be extremely beneficial. Not just for me...
AheadMatthewawsome
Unfortunately an HTTP 500 response code is just the very generic error "Internal Server Error".  The Wikipedia entry at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HTTP_status_codes is a reasonable list to refer to.  As you'll see there are many more explicit messages in the 5xx group.

Richard.
  s3_gunzel Not a gunzel developer

Location: Western Sydney, AU
Unfortunately an HTTP 500 response code is just the very generic error "Internal Server Error".
rwatts


500 is indeed a catch-all HTTP error code, but one'd be able to pinpoint it by checking the logs of the server.

Think of 500 as a 'this has thrown an error but we don't want to display our cards'.
  rwatts Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide SA
Unfortunately an HTTP 500 response code is just the very generic error "Internal Server Error".


500 is indeed a catch-all HTTP error code, but one'd be able to pinpoint it by checking the logs of the server.

Think of 500 as a 'this has thrown an error but we don't want to display our cards'.
s3_gunzel
For me it's always been more of "but we don't know what".  But yes,  log analysis can, and usually does, show much.

Richard.

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