I'm ok with elevated sections, so long as there's adequate provision for track quadruplication between Caulfield and Dandenong. That means either stacked rail decks or four-track-wide viaducts.I tend to agree. Probably less impact than the CityLink roadways. Given that it's mostly fairly straight track, probably not too much of an issue with noise either.
Noise may not be a big issue - there isn't much high-rise development out that way, so you could just deflect the noise upwards.
Why not just put the tracks underground as overhead trains are unsightly!More expensive! Although there is an argument that doing a "cut-and-shut" and selling the newly created real estate above it can offset the expense. Can work well in high density inner-city suburbs, but not so much in the outer 'burbs.
Meanwhile the rest of the world just gets on with it.Sir; how dare you disparage our most dearly held tradition? We are experts at talking about things. Harrumph!
Hasn't worked In Melbourne very well at all, to costs of "shutting" "lidding", "roofing", etc over the railway Is just to great and risky.Why not just put the tracks underground as overhead trains are unsightly!More expensive! Although there is an argument that doing a "cut-and-shut" and selling the newly created real estate above it can offset the expense. Can work well in high density inner-city suburbs, but not so much in the outer 'burbs.
What about a future dedicated/(SG?) freight corridor for Dandenong/Hastings? How would this go with this raised idea?You have to workout how you would possibly get SG through the congested Inner City and out to Caulfield !
(David Davis): “There has been no real consultation with local communities and councils on this ugly sky option and its massive impacts including thunderous noise, wasteland spaces and slicing communities in half’’
Yes, the proposal does use passenger lines for part of it.Oh ok, Ill have to re-read the metro plan and see that. Unless there is another doc you can point me to that is clearer? (I really don't mind reading these docs, there is a lot of good information in them)
(David Davis): “There has been no real consultation with local communities and councils on this ugly sky option and its massive impacts including thunderous noise, wasteland spaces and slicing communities in half’’
Bloody Liberals. They had no intention of consulting with the community when they proposed to build the ugly "sky" exit from the East-West link, which would have ruined parkland at the exit in Parkville.
Never let them near power, ever again.
As someone has said, elevated rail slices suburbs in half but at grade rail does not! David Davis is an absolute tosser!!!(David Davis): “There has been no real consultation with local communities and councils on this ugly sky option and its massive impacts including thunderous noise, wasteland spaces and slicing communities in half’’
Bloody Liberals. They had no intention of consulting with the community when they proposed to build the ugly "sky" exit from the East-West link, which would have ruined parkland at the exit in Parkville.
Never let them near power, ever again.
They only like freeways!
If the rail line is built above the ground what impact could this have on freight train services?
If for some reason you don't want a full blown sky rail? Why not just elevate the line a small amount to build pedestrian underpasses to link suburbs and go over the road at level crossings.
Query, whats wrong with the line between West Richmond and Clifton Hill, spends most of this distance on an embankment 5 to 6 metres high with few level crossings!A valid point here.
There will always be people will whinge and moan about things, its easier than doing something constructive.
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