High Capacity Metro Trains (HCMT) Order

 
  John.Z Assistant Commissioner

HCMTs this week have finally entered into scheduled services, I've seen this week HCMTs leaving Flinders St with pax at about 8.30am in the morning. In the past, HCMTs seemed to only run as supplementary services in case of failure (to avoid fines).

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  Carnot Minister for Railways

HCMTs this week have finally entered into scheduled services, I've seen this week HCMTs leaving Flinders St with pax at about 8.30am in the morning. In the past, HCMTs seemed to only run as supplementary services in case of failure (to avoid fines).
John.Z
And not a State Govt minister in sight... yet.  Wonder of wonders.
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
In addition these going into timetabled, regular, use recently two more, nos. 20 and 21, entered service this week for a total of seven in use.

Neil
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

Set 29 was transferred last night from Newport Workshops to Pakenham East Depot  behind P16 and T363 based off a video I saw on Facebook.

Set 30 was still in its individual carriages a fortnight ago when set 29 was being fitted out with its assembly into a train set and final fitting out presumably starting (if it has not already) now that set 29 was set down to Pakenham East.
Set 3 is still split in its individual carriages at Newport Workshops with unconfirmed information stating it is "apparently getting ready for service" but needs some work done due to it supposedly being "a production/testing pathfinder".

This Flickr Album (not mine) is my source which shows the Downer Area as of a fortnight ago with said source photos down the bottom of the page: https://flickr.com/photos/184986861@N04/albums/7215771694778...

In other news, there still has not been any public information about the artwork to go on "one of the first" HCMT sets for those who have been wondering about that (more information here about said artwork: https://transport.vic.gov.au/our-transport-future/our-projec...)
  Carnot Minister for Railways

An interesting report on the front page of The Age this morning.

Uighur slave labour was used by a major supplier. The Dept of Transport refused to shift to a different crowd due to cost...

It makes you want to avoid using them full stop.

  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Location: Banned
An interesting report on the front page of The Age this morning.

Uighur slave labour was used by a major supplier. The Dept of Transport refused to shift to a different crowd due to cost...

It makes you want to avoid using them full stop.

Carnot
Totally agree Carnot. Not least that the problems the NSW Government had faced with the Introduction of Waratahs. Doubtless those NSW are fantastic trains, but the use of slave Uighur labour is so on the nose and is a stain on the Victorian Government.


Michael
  Djebel Junior Train Controller

An interesting report on the front page of The Age this morning.

Uighur slave labour was used by a major supplier. The Dept of Transport refused to shift to a different crowd due to cost...

It makes you want to avoid using them full stop.

Totally agree Carnot. Not least that the problems the NSW Government had faced with the Introduction of Waratahs. Doubtless those NSW are fantastic trains, but the use of slave Uighur labour is so on the nose and is a stain on the Victorian Government.


Michael
mejhammers1
Dan's Chinese mates wouldn't do anything like that.  They're top blokes Rolling Eyes.
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

As of the 7th of June, HCMTs have started running on the Cranbourne Line, however it seems to be only doing 1 run a day which is officially scheduled to run back to Flinders Street before forming a Pakenham service (but recent reports say that due to night works between Caulfield and Dandenong, it has been running empty from Cranbourne to Dandenong before then turning back to run empty back to Pakenham East).
The services they run also now include a short Westall run that goes back to Flinders Street before forming a Pakenham Service.

Set 22 and 24 have been reported to be taking passengers which would make it 9 sets in service now.

Set 25 has commenced mainline testing.

I have seen an image of Set 15 wearing one of the first people's artworks namely the design by Mandy Nicholson (see: https://transport.vic.gov.au/our-transport-future/our-projects/high-capacity-metro-trains/train-artwork for more information).
As I have mentioned previously, there has not been any official information about what the plans are regarding these artworks i.e. whether this will be the only set with an artwork or as some have speculated only just one of the four (with all four artworks mentioned in the link I shared being applied to a set each - I know the website says only one will be selected but that part has not been updated since it was posted).
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

Set 30 was transferred last night from Newport Workshops to Pakenham East Depot  behind SSR's T386 and T385 based off photos I saw on Facebook.

Also for those who would like to know, the list of timetabled services that HCMTs have been seen to run are found at this link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I0R4hSCPVAiG9zJfKMBoaLhmI1eYurIzqE_I-edNqgI/edit#gid=270887703 with the set that runs being different all the time.  
Also something to note is that this has seen a small handful of Comengs being stored as a result of the HCMTs running normal timetabled services with 301M-1001T-302M and 363M-1032T-364M reportedly being the first having been stored on 13/05/2021 according to Vicsig with potentially others in the time since. - edit: I have since received conflicting information about this so I am not sure if it is actually happening or not.
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
Set 22 is definitely in service. There is a photo and comment from the photographer on catching it from Flinders St, on the MelbourneTrains Reddit thread

Neil

Edit: also a Hazpt video of HCMT in service with #22 appearing frequently.
#23 entered service today according to this video

https://youtu.be/DcYNy7WKW4M
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

@ngarner From what I have seen from Facebook, it technically entered service on Tuesday the 29th of June but had a fault that resulted in "tripping and emergency braking" all over the place which resulted in it being pulled from service. It returned to service today and ran several trips but reportedly had a fault later in the evening when it was due to run a Cranbourne Service.

In other news:
Set 31 is still getting fitted out/assembled at Newport Workshops while set 3 is reportedly getting converted from a prototype model to a production model (reports say sets 2-5 and possibly set 1 are/were prototypes).
This video shows it all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JCMkXY6fXw - Note: set 10 seen at 7:10 in the video has since gone back to Pakenham East and remains unliveried.
Source for Set 3 information: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1I0R4hSCPVAiG9zJfKMBoaLhmI1eYurIzqE_I-edNqgI/edit#gid=0 (which includes information from various people including those who work on the project).

Also, for those who have not been on one yet, there is now a "Virtual Train Tour" available at: https://transport.vic.gov.au/our-transport-future/our-projects/high-capacity-metro-trains
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
Also something to note is that this has seen a small handful of Comengs being stored as a result of the HCMTs running normal timetabled services with 301M-1001T-302M and 363M-1032T-364M reportedly being the first having been stored on 13/05/2021 according to Vicsig with potentially others in the time since.
Op Kronos
Someone hide the 301M set in NSW before it ends up like 500M or the Elecrail Hitachi (282M/295M 6 car set).
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

Also something to note is that this has seen a small handful of Comengs being stored as a result of the HCMTs running normal timetabled services with 301M-1001T-302M and 363M-1032T-364M reportedly being the first having been stored on 13/05/2021 according to Vicsig with potentially others in the time since.
Someone hide the 301M set in NSW before it ends up like 500M or the Elecrail Hitachi (282M/295M 6 car set).
Heihachi_73
The information I posted about Comengs being stored may have been incorrect as 301M-1001T-302M has reportedly seen in service by people and Vicsig has ungreyed (greyed listing means stored in their terms) its listing as well.

Supposedly, the first few will start to be retired from next year according to the current franchise agreement with MTM according to this screenshot of the tender by Marcus Wong available at: https://raildocs.wongm.com/suburban-bits/comeng-train-assumed-retirement-schedule.jpg.html. I expect this to probably be changed given the delay in the HCMT rollout with only around 9 or so being used for passenger services on a random cycle with not all running at once on the same day or even week.
  8502 Chief Train Controller

PTUA has released photos from the Pakenham East Facility







  Jordy33 Locomotive Fireman

Clearly hiding Set 15 (special livery)
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

Clearly hiding Set 15 (special livery)
Jordy33
You mean this one (photo not mine, found on Facebook): https://www.flickr.com/photos/193170718@N08/51333911398/

As I have mentioned in my previous posts, the state government has not made an official announcement about this and the artwork is by Mandy Nicholson (see: https://transport.vic.gov.au/our-transport-future/our-projects/high-capacity-metro-trains/train-artwork for more information).
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
Courtesy of the link that Op Kronos provided previously, set 25 entered service yesterday and set 17 has been moved to Epping for testing on the trial section of HCS between Epping and South Morang. Set 30 is ready for coupling up and final work, at Newport, with set 31 well under assembly

Neil

Edit: Suggested by a Youtuber that a second unit, number unknown, is also at Epping.
  John.Z Assistant Commissioner

Courtesy of the link that Op Kronos provided previously, set 25 entered service yesterday and set 17 has been moved to Epping for testing on the trial section of HCS between Epping and South Morang. Set 30 is ready for coupling up and final work, at Newport, with set 31 well under assembly

Neil

Edit: Suggested by a Youtuber that a second unit, number unknown, is also at Epping.
ngarner
HCMTs on the Mernda Line? Metro 2 could be handy....
  Jordy33 Locomotive Fireman

About 20 odd sets are cleared for revenue service.
  John.Z Assistant Commissioner

About 20 odd sets are cleared for revenue service.
Jordy33
Third of the way there. You'd think they'd all be in service by 2022 now.
  Dissonance Station Staff

Went on an HCMT for the first time today. Was very quiet and comfortable compared to Melbourne’s other trains. Mostly faultless except when the train arrived at Richmond the internal displays said “now arriving at Merinda Park”


  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

Sets 26, 27, 28 and 29 have all now been cleared for revenue service.

Set 3 has returned to Pakenham East from Newport Workshops (can be seen coupled to the usual power van with two T- Class locomotives up front as seen in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECk5Rh5XkrY which appeared to be filmed around the 20th of August based on its title).

Sets 30, 31 and 32 have been transferred to Pakenham East with 33 being transferred right at the moment of me posting this behind Steamrail's T395 and T364 along with the usual BVDY51A power van.
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
Apparently set #1 has been transferred from East Pakenham to Newport for the same rectification work that #3 has had done

Neil

Edit

confirmed by this Youtube clip



https://youtu.be/IgqTgyRZNRU
  Op Kronos Locomotive Fireman

Apparently set #1 has been transferred from East Pakenham to Newport for the same rectification work that #3 has had done

Neil

Edit

confirmed by this Youtube clip
ngarner
You beat me to posting about this.

In addition to the rectification work, I imagine it will also be fitted out internally among other things (in addition to the more significant rectification work compared to what was done to set 3) as unlike every other set that followed, set 1 had only sand bags inside when it was transferred initially back in November 2018.

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