This sale never happened (I noticed someone even wrote "cancelled" on the flyer!). It would be several more years until these vehicles were actually sold off after the ARPG had their pickings of them first. This was of course after the original single decker scrapping contract had been completed. It should be noted that some of these vehicles were those purchased by SETS through ARPG in early 1998, the single deck manual door cars being 7000 series motors ex Flemington Shunters.
I wonder if the u set cars set aside by RailCorp for preservation were initially included as part of this auction? Also it notes that the 14 power cars had either a DH25 or AY62 air compressor - from what I recall, it seems most of the u-set cars retained their original older style compressors or did some of them get the S-set compressors? From what I do remember the W set power cars seemed to mostly have S set compressors under them....
There have recently been some new and exciting rumours that CF5003 and CF5021 (which was recently transferred a few days ago with electric locos 4615 and 8086 from Junee to Lithgow) will be restored to working condition for use with the AK cars (Not for heritage runs) with a role similar to the S Set motor cars. This will be great if it is true as we will be able to see them running with the newer rolling stock which did not exist back in the day (A Sets, M Sets, H Sets, B Sets, etc.). Does anyone think there is a particular reason why they would choose to use single deck intersurbans for the job when they already have the Suburban S Set Motor Cars? (Maybe so they can also run the new metro line? which would be pretty cool! Old stock on brand new rail system - Don’t take this too seriously). Remember this is only a rumour so do not take this too seriously.Just rumours mate.
Just some extra info on 4615 and 8086 - They are planned to be reactivated for use by Sydney Trains as maintenance trains on the underground network.
Thanks for the interesting information. Sounds like you could write a book about this stuff. So it sounds like as it is, it's not even known who owns these 4 items of rolling stock anymore or the specific reasons why they were taken to Lithgow.
In regards to 4638, someone made an interesting post in the 8606 & 4615 thread in the Locomotives forum that Thirlmere gave up on that one because it needs to be stored in a wired section with pans up? As far as I understand 4638 is owned by NSWRM and not part of the official state collection such as the cars in your care (F1, U2, W3)? That means if this loco were to run again (or 8646 for that matter), there would be some contract/agreement between NSWRM, THNSW and Sydney Trains to allow their working? By the same token, as a purely hypothetical, if 4601 at Valley Heights Museum was workable they would be in a similar situation to NSWRM Thirlmere in the type of agreement they would have with THNSW + ST as well since both of these museums are listed in the "Our Museums" section of the THNSW website? I'm guessing though it means the respective museums would lose the locos as far as a display piece is concerned as they would probably no longer be able to store them there as they'd be in the hands of ST.
Also, as far as underground works are concerned where the electric locos would still be of benefit, how often does that happen? Once a year? Once every few years?
LSMR no doubt knows what's up with those 4 vehicles, but having a look at their facebook pages there is no posts about it - and I highly doubt there will be, all hush hush, unless some kind of rather big announcement comes in the future. No chance that LSMR themselves may have purchased these 4 vehicles looking to lease the 2 locos to ST and/or THNSW? They have since entered into an agreement with THNSW for 623/723 which is being restored. Either that or some potentially new 3rd party has taken notice of the impressive restoration work they have been doing, which can be added, is a good thing for that area in opening up potentially new employment opportunities there. Will be interesting to see nonetheless.The fact that LSMR are involved tends to suggest to me that ownership has already changed. LSMR are a pretty progressive group and are known for entering contracts with third parties and keeping things hush hush until it's time to let the cat out of the bag. I just hope they've done their homework on this one, as just about everywhere these vehicles have been this century, they have outlived their welcome and the issue as ended up in court.
A new facebook group that I have just discovered "NSW Railways Past and Present", for those interested in historical photos may find this group interesting. They have 2 facebook posts covering the transfer of these cars.Haha sure a lot of armchair clatter in that lot!
Photo taken 19 June 2018 where they are stored Lithgow
Their arrival at Lithgow Station around 3:37pm Sunday 16 June 2018 after a long 2 day trip from Junee. Quite amazing how many people covered this journey.
A historic photo of 3820 passing on the main down through Summer Hill near the Liverpool Road overpass on 01 July 1966 with a u-boat heading in the opposite direction. I believe those 2 old houses (Carlton Cres) still exist today
U-boat tour with U7 through Turrella to Glenlee Colliery
Does that mean they could be taken closer to the heart of Sydney?No idea.
Some posts on the SETS facebook page regarding the vehicles concernedYeah, it does seem that they are still owned by SETS.