Shepparton pax rail

 
  Gman_86 Chief Commissioner

Location: Melton, where the sparks dare not roam!
This will mean Shepparton will receive 5 return services per day.

Does this also mean the end of Seymour as a destination for scheduled locomotive hauled passenger services? If so, then that  leaves Bacchus Marsh and Geelong as the only commuter lines serviced by loco hauled trains.

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  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

Could be wrong but I’m pretty sure VLos are not being introduced in this iteration of the upgrade.
  allthestations Beginner

Location: Roxburgh Park & Manchester Piccadilly
Hi there

8306 0657 Seymour-Southern Cross & 8339 2150 Southern Cross-Seymour will still be N+VN loco hauled workings i think.
  trainbrain Chief Commissioner

This will mean Shepparton will receive 5 return services per day.

Does this also mean the end of Seymour as a destination for scheduled locomotive hauled passenger services? If so, then that  leaves Bacchus Marsh and Geelong as the only commuter lines serviced by loco hauled trains.
Gman_86
so what?
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
The press release mentions new Vlo stabling north of Shepparton.  Where is this slated to go can anyone point out on a map?  I can't find anything in council DA applications etc or other sources to tell me.  @547M can you see any site preparation works going on that might be the location?
  Nightfire Minister for Railways

Location: Gippsland
The press release mentions new Vlo stabling north of Shepparton.  Where is this slated to go can anyone point out on a map?  I can't find anything in council DA applications etc or other sources to tell me.  @547M can you see any site preparation works going on that might be the location?
james.au
Isn't train stabling going to be In Shepparton Yard (roads 3&4) like what they have been working on and just about completed ?
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
That is what we assumed when 3 road was used.  Though it was alluded to that new stabling would go in somewhere in Grahamville in one of he photo posts above too...
  damooops Junior Train Controller

Location: The Revenue Raising State
G'day all.
The April timetable will utilise Shepparton yard which was recently upgraded. The Vlocities won't be going up to Shepparton until the level crossing are upgraded. As for stabling, I don't think that location has been decided as yet, but I believe they have looked at the former Caltex siding just the other side of New Dookie Rd. as a possible site.
Cheers all.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Does this also mean the end of Seymour as a destination for scheduled locomotive hauled passenger services? If so, then that  leaves Bacchus Marsh and Geelong as the only commuter lines serviced by loco hauled trains.Shepparton is a commuter service.

All trains stop all stations.

This is actually a backwards move from the services offered 20 years ago when all Shepparton services ran express Seymour - Broadmeadows.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
>>Does this also mean the end of Seymour as a destination for scheduled locomotive hauled passenger services? If so, then >>that  leaves Bacchus Marsh and Geelong as the only commuter lines serviced by loco hauled trains.Shepparton is a commuter >>service.

All trains stop all stations.

This is actually a backwards move from the services offered 20 years ago when all Shepparton services ran express Seymour - Broadmeadows.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
The press release mentions new Vlo stabling north of Shepparton.  Where is this slated to go can anyone point out on a map?  I can't find anything in council DA applications etc or other sources to tell me.  @547M can you see any site preparation works going on that might be the location?
james.au

Not at the moment. No surveying sighted.

The Caltex siding is disused but Caltex use the storage there.

I have taken photos of where the rumoured stabling is to go (Grahamvale) but I suspect there is *another* location nearby Campbell's Soup.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
The press release mentions new Vlo stabling north of Shepparton.  Where is this slated to go can anyone point out on a map?  I can't find anything in council DA applications etc or other sources to tell me.  @547M can you see any site preparation works going on that might be the location?

Not at the moment. No surveying sighted.

The Caltex siding is disused but Caltex use the storage there.

I have taken photos of where the rumoured stabling is to go (Grahamvale) but I suspect there is *another* location nearby Campbell's Soup.
574M
Why is the current stabling site not able to be used for Vlos.  seems like they've gone and wasted a bunch of money making 2 stabling sites?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Yes why is there not enough room  with three road?

I think the yard is still used for freight wagons staging so they may not have the space they require moving forward?

Also makes you wonder why oil is not going to the Caltex terminal from Corio with both being rail connected?
  hbedriver Chief Train Controller

All sidings at Corio removed inside the fence, also the loading facilities are gone. The lead from the main line into the sidings remains...sort of; with a "V" crossing removed.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Why is the current stabling site not able to be used for Vlos.  seems like they've gone and wasted a bunch of money making 2 stabling sites?
james.au

Cant say why, James, except to speculate on requirements for stabling of DMU vis-a-vis loco hauled trains.

The other thought that comes to mind is that Shepparton yard is not secure.
See Echuca stabling for Vlo. Apparently its fully secured, like UFTG, etc.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Yes why is there not enough room  with three road?

I think the yard is still used for freight wagons staging so they may not have the space they require moving forward?

Also makes you wonder why oil is not going to the Caltex terminal from Corio with both being rail connected?
bevans

One siding is labelled "Fruit siding" but it hasn't seen any traffic since Y157 was dragged back to Seymour.  (This is my recall.)

Oil went to road around the same time.

This is a *possible* location; it is very grassed at this time.
(photo belongs to our user Nightfire, via google, not showing up on its thread)




as you can see, this is 2009. Y157 was well and truly gone.

in 2018, this looked like this:



bit of rust there.

This is the Caltex Yard.
I am not saying this is the stabling location ...

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
From where did the oil come from to the siding, was it Geelong?
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
From where did the oil come from to the siding, was it Geelong?
bevans
Yes, it came from Geelong.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Stabling at Shepparton on afternoon of Saturday, 30 March 2019: in anticipation of the new timetable to start on Monday, (methinks).

  kuldalai Chief Commissioner

Stabling at Shepparton on afternoon of Saturday, 30 March 2019: in anticipation of the new timetable to start on Monday, (methinks).

574M
First Weekdays Up will be N set on Mondays and H set on Tuersday to Friday according to new valley  WTT.
  james.au Minister for Railways

Location: Sydney, NSW
Instead of creating a new thread for this, can someone tell me what TAL the bridges between Shepparton and Seymour can handle?  The line is Class 3 which per VicSig seems to allow 23TAL at 80kph?
  ngarner Assistant Commissioner

Location: Seville
The preferred Shepparton Vlo stabling site has been chosen at Garnhamvale Rd, roughly 3km north of Shep, with comments being requested of locals. No further upgrades of the track between the station and site chosen are required. Contractor is to be announced in 'the coming months' with work to start 'late this year'.

https://regionalrailrevival.vic.gov.au/shepparton/stabling

Neil
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Isn't that at the junction for the Dookie line? Will the new stabling yard prevent any future reopening of that line?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The preferred Shepparton Vlo stabling site has been chosen at Garnhamvale Rd, roughly 3km north of Shep, with comments being requested of locals. No further upgrades of the track between the station and site chosen are required. Contractor is to be announced in 'the coming months' with work to start 'late this year'.

https://regionalrailrevival.vic.gov.au/shepparton/stabling

Neil
ngarner

Np space at the yard?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Looking at the map this morning, it looks like the stabling yard will use part of the Dookie line South of Grahamvale Rd.  I hope they put points in so that the Dookie line has a future.

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