Steamrail To Cancel Hitachi Preservation

 
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
so I decided to email them and I got a response about the hitchis

Dear Ned,

Thank you for your email. Below is comprehensive information on the future of the Hitachi’s.
Currently Steamrail have an option to purchase the six car Hitachi set that is  stored in the Garden Platform at Newport Workshops  for a nominal amount and Steamrail own two further motor units are stored in the West Block yard.  As the Garden Platform does not form part of the Steamrail lease at Newport and is in fact leased to Metro, Steamrail have been requested to make arrangements to move the six car set.


The plan is for the two motor units at each end of the six car set and one of the trailers to be moved into the West Block yard and for the remaining two motor units and one trailer to be moved into a storage area in the East Block yard.   When this move is completed the three car unit which we have been advised has the greatest chance of operating again, at some time in the future, will be stored for the time being in the area under the control of Steamrail.  So far as the two motor units that are currently in the West Block yard are concerned negotiations for the sale of these units is taking place on the basis that they will be preserved and moved off site, in the near future.


Those involved with the Elecrail Division of Steamrail have indicated that they do not have the capacity to become involved with the Hitachi units given the amount of work that they currently are undertaking on restoration of the swing door motor unit that has recently been acquired together with ongoing work associated with the Tait set.  In view of this situation and taking into account the restrictions on the capacity of the West Block yard, the Board of Steamrail has reluctantly agreed that the three units that are to be transferred to the West Block Yard will be offered for sale and removal, to any individual or group that is in a position to store and maintain the set on the basis that the sale will be on an “as is where is basis”.  Any such purchaser would also have the option to acquire the other three units that are to be stored in the East Block Yard.

February 2018

Regards Lisa Garnsworthy
Secretary


Steamrail Victoria
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  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
so any one want to run some Hitachi's or have a new garden ornament?
  silvertrain80 Junior Train Controller

Location: stabled at newport
I would like to have one in my garden.
  sthyer Deputy Commissioner

Applause for a decision being taken. From a preservation perspective, it's a shame, but it's better to be realistic about the chances of successful preservation being carried out rather than shoving the units in a corner for 'when we have time'. With the prospect of having to move out of West Block in the next few years, this won't be the last tough decision Steamrail will have to make on de-acquisition.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
I hope this doesn't affect the future of the Harris cars and the L/E locos (including L1162), it sounds like West Block is shrinking to the point that there will only be a handful of steam and diesel locos, the loco-hauled cars (e.g. W/E/S/K) and the Tait set (and apparently a Swing Door car to rebuild in place of 107M-137M). Usually when something ends up dumped in East Block, it's more likely to end up at Sims Metal rather than stored for safekeeping.
  574M White Guru

Location: Shepparton
Applause for a decision being taken. From a preservation perspective, it's a shame, but it's better to be realistic about the chances of successful preservation being carried out rather than shoving the units in a corner for 'when we have time'. With the prospect of having to move out of West Block in the next few years, this won't be the last tough decision Steamrail will have to make on de-acquisition.
sthyer
You are right. The same sort of thing happened to tait 447M --> shoved in a corner and eventually cut up.

Might be interesting to watch what happens to the remaining Hitachi cars in future;
Perhaps this could be an indication of the future of preservation and heritage operators ... just thinking out loud.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
There is already one preservation group which concentrates on a particular type, and that is DERMPAV. There should be no reason why the Hitachi fans could not form a preservation group for their pet.
  silvertrain80 Junior Train Controller

Location: stabled at newport
Applause for a decision being taken. From a preservation perspective, it's a shame, but it's better to be realistic about the chances of successful preservation being carried out rather than shoving the units in a corner for 'when we have time'. With the prospect of having to move out of West Block in the next few years, this won't be the last tough decision Steamrail will have to make on de-acquisition.
You are right. The same sort of thing happened to tait 447M --> shoved in a corner and eventually cut up.

Might be interesting to watch what happens to the remaining Hitachi cars in future;
Perhaps this could be an indication of the future of preservation and heritage operators ... just thinking out loud.
574M
I don't think steamrail owned 447M. I was told victrack own it.
  Braddo Deputy Commissioner

Location: Narre Warren
Since so many of us love the Hitachi's so much, why don't we offer our services to Elecrail. If enough people volunteered they may reconsider their decision.
  ogigacz Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Sorry to bring up an old thread but I think it's wiser to just add to this one as it relates to the topic at hand.

I was wondering if anyone had any updates on the what the status is the Steamrail/Elecrail Hitachi set? I recall hearing in late 2018 that they were hoping to keep a 3 car set and were awaiting government approval or something like that. Does anyone have any updates?

It would seem that 80M and 222M were moved out Newport in the last month, but they weren't part of the Elecrail set I believe.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwo2tjysTV4&list=UUhJf2woMmm-RDmFyUC8h3dA&index=4
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
IIRC a 3-car set comprising of two outer motors (e.g. the ones Connex/Metro modified with driver aircon) and a random T car was supposedly going to be preserved but so far nothing's happened. IIRC the original 6-car Elecrail set (295M/282M etc.) was vandalised beyond recognition and/or scrapped, unless it's simply hiding somewhere. I think these two cars (edited for clarification: 80M and 222M) are actually better off in Molong (out of site, out of mind and hopefully away from arsonists) until there is interest flowing again, which may take another 30 or so years.

Anyway...

One random thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet regarding 222M - with some of the M cars in the 220s it looks like someone back in 1980 stuffed up when they were being built. The marker lights on five cars are completely different to the standard build, 222M may even be the only remaining survivor with this non-standard design. 221M, 222M, 223M, 224M and 227M all received this treatment (225M and 226M received the normal style as did 228M through 237M). The standard Hitachi marker lights were identical to the second series Harris ones whereas 222M etc. have the lenses placed flush on the stainless steel panel.

The 220s were being built right in the middle of the conversion from D cars to T cars, so it looks like the marker light housings on those five cars were welded shut before someone noticed they were actually M cars rather than D cars (I guess it didn't help with the panto hiding at the back on these cars as well as VicRail's poor positioning of fleet numbers near the centre doors rather than near the cab), and holes were then drilled through the stainless sheet metal to fit the lights. 222M most likely had its light housings (and possibly desto as well) blanked at the same time 996T (aka 1996T) was having its cab gutted and blanked, as the latter car was pictured right behind it after being converted.
  ogigacz Junior Train Controller

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Just got a response back from Steamrail...

Hi Oliver, we currently don’t have any hitachi sets at our newport workshops. A set of 2 motor cars has recently been transported to a private property as one of our members has purchased the 2 cars and will be undertaking the long term restoration offsite. Our small team of Elecrail volunteers at Newport are currently working on upgrading the tait set to operating condition on the modern railway network, as well as restoration of swingdoor car 93M.
Steamrail
So at least two M cars are being put aside for long term restoration.

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