Melbourne Airport Rail Link

 
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
From the Herald Sun, so take it with a Grain of salt

Works to kickstart the new Melbourne Airport rail link will begin within months, with money flowing this financial year and turbocharging Victoria’s pandemic recovery. The state and federal governments are on the verge of confirming the design of the project, which the Herald Sun can reveal will create 11,000 jobs. Crucial geotechnical investigations have already been completed, and the Morrison government expects $70m to be shelled out on the project by June – on top of $30m spent on a business case. Federal infrastructure department documents show the commonwealth has also set aside $180m next year, as part of an overall $5bn commitment. The link, connecting Tullamarine to the heart of the CBD via a new Sunshine superstation, will be a centrepiece of the Andrews government’s forthcoming big-spending budget. Works were not expected to get underway until 2022, but a tender process is now ready to proceed after 152 preparatory boreholes were dug between Sunshine and Tullamarine. A director of Melbourne Airport Rail was also appointed in September and a probity plan is now complete, allowing the $8-13bn project to take flight as soon as Scott Morrison and Daniel Andrews finalise a deal on the route. Victorian Transport Infrastructure Minister Jacinta Allan said she looked forward to announcing the final design soon — which is expected to link into the new Metro Tunnel. “We’ve been working for over a year with the commonwealth on all the planning work to make this much-talked-about project a reality,” she said. Federal Urban Infrastructure Minister Alan Tudge said: “I want to see work cracking on this as soon as we can”. A national partnership between the federal and state governments has locked in up to $10bn for the project, with documents showing $400m of federal money earmarked for 2022-23, after its initial $250m investment. At that stage, major tunnelling will be ready to begin, because the $11bn Metro Tunnel project will be nearing completion. Prime Minister Scott Morrison is expected to tour the proposed site once Melbourne’s strict coronavirus restrictions are lifted. So far, 1800 utility pits have been surveyed over more than 1400 field hours, to ensure a smooth transition to construction. Mr Tudge said the federal government “got the ball rolling” with its $5bn commitment in 2018. “Melbourne and Victoria need the airport rail link,” he said. “It will get thousands of Victorians into work and inject valuable dollars into the state economy. Now more than ever we need to see construction and economic activity underway.”
Herald Sun

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/melbourne-airport-rail-works-to-begin-within-months

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  LeroyW Junior Train Controller

Location: Awaiting MM2
A new Sunshine "superstation" hmm...
There's not a whole lot of room to work with in the corridoor, but I wonder if they do something like move the SG track further East (eat some carpark maybe and redo the access ramp?) to turn platform 1 into an island. Means you can have two up platforms feeding MM1 (Airport/Sunbury on one and eventually Melton/WV on the other) and keep the 24TPH frequency solid out of the station.
Eventually you build a flyover West of Hampshire Rd to get to the new electrified tracks out to Melton and WV.

We're still way off knowing the plans (if any) so foam away... this is Railpage Laughing.
  TOQ-1 Deputy Commissioner

Location: Power Trainger
A new Sunshine "superstation" hmm...
There's not a whole lot of room to work with in the corridoor, but I wonder if they do something like move the SG track further East (eat some carpark maybe and redo the access ramp?) to turn platform 1 into an island. Means you can have two up platforms feeding MM1 (Airport/Sunbury on one and eventually Melton/WV on the other) and keep the 24TPH frequency solid out of the station.
Eventually you build a flyover West of Hampshire Rd to get to the new electrified tracks out to Melton and WV.

We're still way off knowing the plans (if any) so foam away... this is Railpage Laughing.
LeroyW
There's plenty of room in the corridor - it will just take moving things like the carparks and bike path out of the way and maybe being a bit creative with them.

The real barrier at Sunshine is the Hampshire Road overpass. Adding more tracks at ground level will just mean needing to widen the bridge, which will mean making the roads around the station worse.

From a community perspective, one of the better outcomes would be to put all the lines underground, connect Hampshire Road north to South, and Durham Road to Monash St. That would do a bit in opening up the local area and making it easier to get around. You could also do the same by elevating the station, but this would lead to a large undercover (and therefore dark) area where it wouldn't be desirable.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I believe this to be just another announcement to make us all feel good.  The airport link is still 15 years away.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

A few odds and ends (some heavily redacted) were publicly tabled in Vic parliament today:
https://www.parliament.vic.gov.au/council/tabled-documents/search-tabled-documents/details/3/9896
  ngarner Deputy Commissioner

Location: Seville
I believe this to be just another announcement to make us all feel good.  The airport link is still 15 years away.
bevans

Not according to this MARL Timeline
Starting 2022 based on this

Neil
  Yappo Station Master

I believe this to be just another announcement to make us all feel good.  The airport link is still 15 years away.
bevans
In fairness, I guess if someone has of said in the early 70s that the then $100m line to the Airport was 50 years away everyone would have laughed.....
However, this project is obviously going to be one of the 'big splash' announcements in the state budget in 2 weeks given all the internal preparation underway. Both Andrews and the Feds would also prefer that initial works commence earlier than 2022 in the post Covid stimulus push if the timeline allows it.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I believe this to be just another announcement to make us all feel good.  The airport link is still 15 years away.
bevans

Agreed, it will take time to construct. However in 15 years it will be well in use and any bugs should also have been well ironed out by then.

Mike.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
I believe this to be just another announcement to make us all feel good.  The airport link is still 15 years away.
In fairness, I guess if someone has of said in the early 70s that the then $100m line to the Airport was 50 years away everyone would have laughed.....
However, this project is obviously going to be one of the 'big splash' announcements in the state budget in 2 weeks given all the internal preparation underway. Both Andrews and the Feds would also prefer that initial works commence earlier than 2022 in the post Covid stimulus push if the timeline allows it.
Yappo

In the early 1970's we were aghast at the latest Hitachi trains. As a junior Station Assistant at Newport, I well remember seeing and hearing my first Hitachi train on the DOWN, which in those days was almost exclusively to Williamstown/Williamstown Pier.

People on the UP side at Newport waiting to go towards Melbourne deliberately let the next UP go by so they could ride on the new Hitachi train which was the following UP service.

PT in those days was well inferior to private car travel and I think it was only the media pressure of tinder dry wooden Tait's travelling through the by then under construction City Loop that saw the construction of the Hitachi's. Remember, to their credit this was all done under a Liberal government under then socially progressive Premier Dick Hamer.

Moreover, getting back on track, if you were flying into or out of Melbourne airport in those days...years before airline de-regulation, you were not short of a quid as airfares were expensive and you weren't travelling to the airport by any other bus than the Flxible Clippers operated by the airlines themselves from Franklin Street.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=taa+flxible+clipper+melbourne&tbm=isch&hl=en-GB&chips=q:taa+flxible+clipper+melbourne,online_chips:ansett+airlines&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiP866_-ILtAhUqDrcAHSnLBpcQ4lYoAHoECAEQFg&biw=1263&bih=610#imgrc=0N4q-DczKxPnBM

If I recall...there was very little talk about a fixed heavy rail service to the airport, however there was some discussion about extending the Essendon airport tram further along to service the new Airport.
The discussion was not about extending the railways any fashion apart from the City Loop as railways were literally being closed in their hundreds of miles all around the state as the feeling at the time was their day was almost over.

Mike.
  Jordy33 Station Master

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-airport-trains-will-run-through-the-metro-tunnel-every-10-minutes-20201120-p56gl2.html
Trains to run every 10 minutes via Metro Tunnel - so using HCMTs to Airport. Also apparently  includes plans for Geelong trains to return to via Werribee, with Werribee to Laverton to get an extra pair of tracks likely so V/Line can overtake Metro.
  John.Z Assistant Commissioner

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-airport-trains-will-run-through-the-metro-tunnel-every-10-minutes-20201120-p56gl2.html
Trains to run every 10 minutes via Metro Tunnel - so using HCMTs to Airport. Also apparently  includes plans for Geelong trains to return to via Werribee, with Werribee to Laverton to get an extra pair of tracks likely so V/Line can overtake Metro.
Jordy33
$4B is a lot for some express tracks. Does it include funding for the South Geelong - Waurn Ponds duplication, or for electrification?
  Jordy33 Station Master

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-airport-trains-will-run-through-the-metro-tunnel-every-10-minutes-20201120-p56gl2.html
Trains to run every 10 minutes via Metro Tunnel - so using HCMTs to Airport. Also apparently  includes plans for Geelong trains to return to via Werribee, with Werribee to Laverton to get an extra pair of tracks likely so V/Line can overtake Metro.
$4B is a lot for some express tracks. Does it include funding for the South Geelong - Waurn Ponds duplication, or for electrification?
John.Z
I don’t see the section about the $4B for the Werribee - Laverton express tracks in the article, but that does seem quite high. I do believe that South Geelong - Waurn Ponds duplication is going ahead with upgraded stations at Marshall, South Geelong and Waurn Ponds.
  True Believers Chief Commissioner

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-airport-trains-will-run-through-the-metro-tunnel-every-10-minutes-20201120-p56gl2.html
Trains to run every 10 minutes via Metro Tunnel - so using HCMTs to Airport. Also apparently  includes plans for Geelong trains to return to via Werribee, with Werribee to Laverton to get an extra pair of tracks likely so V/Line can overtake Metro.
$4B is a lot for some express tracks. Does it include funding for the South Geelong - Waurn Ponds duplication, or for electrification?
John.Z
Funding for the South Geelong - Waurn Ponds duplication is a completely separate project, delivered as part of the regional rail revival works, you can check the update they are now planning that right now.

Looks like they are going re-reoute Geelong trains back on the Werribee corridor, very fascinating, also the most interestingly I've seen the level crossing removal project along the Werribee line has provision for 4 tracks, which means it should be simple where they are placing the new road bridges at Hoppers crossing and Werribee.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

So, it sounds like 6 tph added to existing Metro line from Albion to MM1 will be airport trains (HCMT).

MM1 will have a max capacity of 24 tph, so a big percentage of those will end up at Tullamarine.  What was the tph forecast for Sunbury trains? And then you have to factor in Melton sparks as well down the track....

I can see the logic of taking much of the Geetroit trains away from RRL to free up some capacity there which might include Melton and Wyndham Vale sparks on the RRL path as well.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-airport-trains-will-run-through-the-metro-tunnel-every-10-minutes-20201120-p56gl2.html
Trains to run every 10 minutes via Metro Tunnel - so using HCMTs to Airport. Also apparently  includes plans for Geelong trains to return to via Werribee, with Werribee to Laverton to get an extra pair of tracks likely so V/Line can overtake Metro.
Jordy33

I'd like to thank Jordy for not creating another needless thread on this subject.

Also, don't forget the Wyndham Vale line from Deer Park was originally planned to be quad.

Mike.
  LeroyW Junior Train Controller

Location: Awaiting MM2
Werribee quadding as part of MARL eh? Those sly bureaucrats...

Not only do they kill the consortium's City - Sunshine tunnel argument dead (plenty of capacity through the corridor without Geelong) but they also set up a "planned" bottleneck down the track to be solved by the tunnel they actually want: Metro 2.

I actually really like this. Feels like we are building bit by bit to a master plan and are finally not being swayed by the interests (sirens?) that pop up along the way.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
https://t.co/XWxfQiXIgu?amp=1

Trains to run every 10 minutes via Metro Tunnel - so using HCMTs to Airport. Also apparently  includes plans for Geelong trains to return to via Werribee, with Werribee to Laverton to get an extra pair of tracks likely so V/Line can overtake Metro.
$4B is a lot for some express tracks. Does it include funding for the South Geelong - Waurn Ponds duplication, or for electrification?
I don’t see the section about the $4B for the Werribee - Laverton express tracks in the article, but that does seem quite high. I do believe that South Geelong - Waurn Ponds duplication is going ahead with upgraded stations at Marshall, South Geelong and Waurn Ponds.
Jordy33

I have mentioned previously costs for electrification to Geelong have been completed so I would expect this to form part of the overall plan.

  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Werribee quadding as part of MARL eh? Those sly bureaucrats...

Not only do they kill the consortium's City - Sunshine tunnel argument dead (plenty of capacity through the corridor without Geelong) but they also set up a "planned" bottleneck down the track to be solved by the tunnel they actually want: Metro 2.

I actually really like this. Feels like we are building bit by bit to a master plan and are finally not being swayed by the interests (sirens?) that pop up along the way.
LeroyW

Agree this has come in above expectation.  Are we also right in assuming the SRL will connect into the Airport from the north?

Can you explain your comment in metro 2 tunnel as an extension please?
  chomper Junior Train Controller

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-airport-trains-will-run-through-the-metro-tunnel-every-10-minutes-20201120-p56gl2.html
Trains to run every 10 minutes via Metro Tunnel - so using HCMTs to Airport. Also apparently  includes plans for Geelong trains to return to via Werribee, with Werribee to Laverton to get an extra pair of tracks likely so V/Line can overtake Metro.
Jordy33
This one is dead in the water:


aiming to be fully operational by 2029, pending a business case and planning requirements.

And the gall of charging $19.50 to keep the SkyBus clowns happy...
  tayser Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
^ bit presumptuous much, when we haven't even heard from the horse's mouth and trusting only in a newspaper drop, no?
  tayser Deputy Commissioner

Location: Melbourne
Press conference:

  Djebel Station Master

So I will be able to take a 45 minute train trip, then change trains, then take a 30 minute train trip, and pay $40 (is that just for the Airport link trip, or does it include other public transport travel to get to the link?) for the privilege (return trip)?  Or I could drive there in 40 minutes and park for the same price.

Hmmm.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

At least you won't get ripped off by Melbourne Airport Parking fees and CityLink tolls after spending time in gridlocked traffic.

I wonder if the aviation industry will recover by 2029?
  Djebel Station Master

At least you won't get ripped off by Melbourne Airport Parking fees and CityLink tolls after spending time in gridlocked traffic.

I wonder if the aviation industry will recover by 2029?
Carnot
That's what I'm saying -- the parking fees (for a weekend away, which is all I do) would be the same as the proposed fare, maybe cheaper depending whether the $20 includes the trip into the city or just covers the city-airport section.

I don't go on Citylink to get to the airport, so that's not relevant to me.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
At least you won't get ripped off by Melbourne Airport Parking fees and CityLink tolls after spending time in gridlocked traffic.

I wonder if the aviation industry will recover by 2029?
Carnot

@Carnot I think now reading all the material available this is a great initiative and will make public transport to the airport very viable.  It also means the route will be electrified and no diesel trains into the airport area.

Also of interest is the sending of geelong trains back via Newport it seems?

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