V/Line Incidents/Disruptions #2

 
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
On the 09.14 Down Bendigo, running on 2 out of 3 and limping up Macedon Bank heading for Woodend. It makes a big difference heading up grade, fingers crossed that we get over the top!

BG

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  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

V/LINE has established a ‘lateness squad’ to address rampant delays as patronage on the Geelong line reaches critical mass.

New V/Line chairman Jeroen Weimar told the Geelong Advertiser the team was created after more than one million extra trips were taken on the Geelong line last financial year Mr Weimer, who is also Public Transport Victoria CEO, said the move, combined with a new timetable to be released later this month, meant hope was on the horizon for Geelong’s rail commuters.

Mr Weimer said the recently-­established team addressing “poor” punctuality would deliver real results to long-suffering commuters.

“We’ve established a performance team to drive day-to-day performance. It is ready to hit the ground and drive performance of every single one of our 300 train services a day (on the entire network) and look at all the obstructions and issues we get that impact our performance,” Mr Weimar said.

He said the team was established about six weeks ago in light of 1,052,520 additional trips on the Geelong line in 2017-18 when compared to the year before.

“We’ve started to see some improvement from a pretty poor point in May,” he said.

“My absolute focus is on getting the Geelong corridor working as reliably as we possibly can.” He said a communications team was now embedded in ­V/Line’s control centre to get prompt messages about ­disruption to commuters.

Since June 2015, V/Line has failed its punctuality target of 92 per cent in all but two months, which means recently about 300 trains a month are running more than six minutes late.

Mr Weimar said “stop-start investment” in V/Line in past decades meant it struggled to maintain consistent performance.

Meanwhile, a new Geelong timetable to be released on ­August 26 will include three more weekday peak trains running to or from Waurn Ponds station.

It follows 289 services that have been added to the Geelong line in the past four years, Mr Weimar said.

V/Line data shows trips on the Geelong line have exploded from 3.38 million in 2008/2009 to 8,773,618 million in 2017/18. “We’re sitting on top of the fastest growing regional railway anywhere in Australia — probably the fastest growing railway anywhere in Australia,” Mr Weimar said.

“We’ve not seen that rate of growth on our railway in Australia ever before — certainly not in modern times.” Trips on the Geelong line accounted for almost 45 per cent of the trips taken on the entire V/Line network in 2016-17.

To meet surging demand, V/Line has doubled train services on the Geelong corridor in four years with services operating between Geelong and Melbourne every 10 minutes in peak times and 20 minutes off-peak.

Opposition transport spokesman David Davis said the Liberal/Nationals would spend $633 million to replace V/Line’s “long-haul rattlers” that make up 40 per cent of the fleet if they win the November election.

“Obviously we need rail work and other things to occur. Huge growth in population is a challenge to manage but it’s no excuse for not maintaining the trains properly,” Mr Davis said.

Mr Weimar said the State Government’s $50 million study into fast rail on the Geelong line will consider electrifying the Southern Cross to Wyndham Vale section to improve performance.

PATRONAGE GROWTH GEELONG LINE TRIPS FY 2017/2018: 8.77 million passenger trips FY 2016/2017: 7.72 million FY 2015/2016: 6.74 million FY 2014/2015: 4.24 million FY 2013/2014: 4.02 million FY 2012/2013: 3.89 million FY 2011/2012: 3.90 million FY 2010/2011: 3.77 million FY 2009/2010: 3.47 millionFY 2008/2009: 3.38 million
Geelong Advertiser


Hell of a lot to digest here.

Let me make a start.

-As I suggested some weeks ago to howls of derision Weimar is not a dummy and knows what he’s up against.

-An extra 1 million passengers for the Geelong Line in 17-18 is absolutely phenomenal and no bloody wonder they can’t keep up.

-Sparking to WV looks like a goer.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Monday it was the turn of the 16.03 Dn Bendigo to have the day off, today it's back to the 16.57 flagship express service.

This train is being canned pretty regularly these days.

Lack of crews or lack of rollingstock?

BG
  Radioman Chief Train Controller

Hello All,

it would appear to be a combination of crew and Vlocity shortages for the current time table which is very tight utilisation wise.

On the other hand in one sense having increased demand for trains is a good thing , and I hope V/Line can extend its rail services to other parts of the state.

Regards, Radioman
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Plenty of cancellations and reductions on the Bendigo line this week.

The Down Flagship was cancelled again this evening and the morning Up Swan Hill ran with reduced capacity.

On Wed is was the turn of the 16.03 Down Bendigo to get the axe plus the 16.57 Down (flagship) ran with 3 cars, gee that would have been a fun afternoon, Sardines anyone?

On Monday the flagship also ran with reduced capacity plus there was the added bonus of signalling problems at SC causing delays to the afternoon peak.

Will be interesting to see what the figures for August look like when they come out.

BG
  Carnot Minister for Railways

An interesting one today due to a shortage of N-sets and better than bustitution:

Swan Hill morning Down and afternoon Up was a 3 car H-set and powervan hauled by an N class.  Has a H-set ever travelled so far North before?
  emmastreet Train Controller

Location: Goulburn Valley
Four and a half + hours in a H set! There should be a law against that.
Why is there a shortage of N sets? No Shepparton/Seymour trains for 2 weeks and Bairnsdale have lost an N set service to a Velocity.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Norda Fittazroy
Why is there a shortage of N sets?
"emmastreet"
Organisation - lack of.
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

The updated WTTs have been uploaded to the V/Line website for today's timetable changes, for those interested.

https://corporate.vline.com.au/Network-Access/Network-service-plan

I always think it's only a matter of  time before this stuff gets put behind a login citing "national security" or some such nonsense, but we may as well enjoy it for now.
  scumcock Locomotive Fireman

Exactly Valvegear no excuse for this to happen piss poor planning what is there 3-4 N sets stabled at geelong over the weekend no no geelong cant have H sets as they complain with there 1 hr ride...vetter put them on a swan hill service.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
The updated WTTs have been uploaded to the V/Line website for today's timetable changes, for those interested.

https://corporate.vline.com.au/Network-Access/Network-service-plan

I always think it's only a matter of  time before this stuff gets put behind a login citing "national security" or some such nonsense, but we may as well enjoy it for now.
potatoinmymouth
Still shows Ararat > MBY as under occo and Ouyen > Pinnaroo Grain Flow site as Dandersdan717 gauge?

BG
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

The updated WTTs have been uploaded to the V/Line website for today's timetable changes, for those interested.

https://corporate.vline.com.au/Network-Access/Network-service-plan

I always think it's only a matter of  time before this stuff gets put behind a login citing "national security" or some such nonsense, but we may as well enjoy it for now.
Still shows Ararat > MBY as under occo and Ouyen > Pinnaroo Grain Flow site as Dandersdan717 gauge?

BG
BrentonGolding
Note that the former is a 23 August version and the latter is from 2017. Both have been modified by various notices and circulars in the meantime. They seem to eventually get around to updating the public versions.
  DALEK Locomotive Fireman

"Exactly Valvegear no excuse for this to happen piss poor planning what is there 3-4 N sets stabled at geelong over the weekend no no geelong cant have H sets as they complain with there 1 hr ride...vetter put them on a swan hill service".The 2 N sets that stable at Geelong actually go to Melbourne over the weekend to operate the long distance trains. The run up on Friday night and down on Sunday night via Werribee.


  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Looks like one of this morning's Up Kyneton Pass services was a non starter as the 3 car Velo set is still sitting in the yard at the station.

On the other hand I am happy to report that the 07.41 Down Swan Hill is running this morning and bang on time so far and headed for Castlemaine. Touch wood.

BG
  wolvestrains Station Staff

V/LINE has established a ‘lateness squad’ to address rampant delays as patronage on the Geelong line reaches critical mass.

New V/Line chairman Jeroen Weimar told the Geelong Advertiser the team was created after more than one million extra trips were taken on the Geelong line last financial year Mr Weimer, who is also Public Transport Victoria CEO, said the move, combined with a new timetable to be released later this month, meant hope was on the horizon for Geelong’s rail commuters.

Mr Weimer said the recently-­established team addressing “poor” punctuality would deliver real results to long-suffering commuters.

“We’ve established a performance team to drive day-to-day performance. It is ready to hit the ground and drive performance of every single one of our 300 train services a day (on the entire network) and look at all the obstructions and issues we get that impact our performance,” Mr Weimar said.

He said the team was established about six weeks ago in light of 1,052,520 additional trips on the Geelong line in 2017-18 when compared to the year before.

“We’ve started to see some improvement from a pretty poor point in May,” he said.

“My absolute focus is on getting the Geelong corridor working as reliably as we possibly can.” He said a communications team was now embedded in ­V/Line’s control centre to get prompt messages about ­disruption to commuters.

Since June 2015, V/Line has failed its punctuality target of 92 per cent in all but two months, which means recently about 300 trains a month are running more than six minutes late.

Mr Weimar said “stop-start investment” in V/Line in past decades meant it struggled to maintain consistent performance.

Meanwhile, a new Geelong timetable to be released on ­August 26 will include three more weekday peak trains running to or from Waurn Ponds station.

It follows 289 services that have been added to the Geelong line in the past four years, Mr Weimar said.

V/Line data shows trips on the Geelong line have exploded from 3.38 million in 2008/2009 to 8,773,618 million in 2017/18. “We’re sitting on top of the fastest growing regional railway anywhere in Australia — probably the fastest growing railway anywhere in Australia,” Mr Weimar said.

“We’ve not seen that rate of growth on our railway in Australia ever before — certainly not in modern times.” Trips on the Geelong line accounted for almost 45 per cent of the trips taken on the entire V/Line network in 2016-17.

To meet surging demand, V/Line has doubled train services on the Geelong corridor in four years with services operating between Geelong and Melbourne every 10 minutes in peak times and 20 minutes off-peak.

Opposition transport spokesman David Davis said the Liberal/Nationals would spend $633 million to replace V/Line’s “long-haul rattlers” that make up 40 per cent of the fleet if they win the November election.

“Obviously we need rail work and other things to occur. Huge growth in population is a challenge to manage but it’s no excuse for not maintaining the trains properly,” Mr Davis said.

Mr Weimar said the State Government’s $50 million study into fast rail on the Geelong line will consider electrifying the Southern Cross to Wyndham Vale section to improve performance.

PATRONAGE GROWTH GEELONG LINE TRIPS FY 2017/2018: 8.77 million passenger trips FY 2016/2017: 7.72 million FY 2015/2016: 6.74 million FY 2014/2015: 4.24 million FY 2013/2014: 4.02 million FY 2012/2013: 3.89 million FY 2011/2012: 3.90 million FY 2010/2011: 3.77 million FY 2009/2010: 3.47 millionFY 2008/2009: 3.38 million


What worries me as a regular passenger on this route who goes Geelong - Waurn Ponds is in the evening it seems like if the train is anymore than 10 mins late coming from Melbourne they terminate it early at either Geelong, South or Marshall so that they can be "on time" for the trip back. Leaving Waurn Ponds passengers stranded and having to wait 40 mins for the next one. I would prefer 15mins late than not at all.  

potatoinmymouth
  potatoinmymouth Chief Commissioner

V/LINE has established a ‘lateness squad’ to address rampant delays as patronage on the Geelong line reaches critical mass.

New V/Line chairman Jeroen Weimar told the Geelong Advertiser the team was created after more than one million extra trips were taken on the Geelong line last financial year Mr Weimer, who is also Public Transport Victoria CEO, said the move, combined with a new timetable to be released later this month, meant hope was on the horizon for Geelong’s rail commuters.

Mr Weimer said the recently-­established team addressing “poor” punctuality would deliver real results to long-suffering commuters.

“We’ve established a performance team to drive day-to-day performance. It is ready to hit the ground and drive performance of every single one of our 300 train services a day (on the entire network) and look at all the obstructions and issues we get that impact our performance,” Mr Weimar said.

He said the team was established about six weeks ago in light of 1,052,520 additional trips on the Geelong line in 2017-18 when compared to the year before.

“We’ve started to see some improvement from a pretty poor point in May,” he said.

“My absolute focus is on getting the Geelong corridor working as reliably as we possibly can.” He said a communications team was now embedded in ­V/Line’s control centre to get prompt messages about ­disruption to commuters.

Since June 2015, V/Line has failed its punctuality target of 92 per cent in all but two months, which means recently about 300 trains a month are running more than six minutes late.

Mr Weimar said “stop-start investment” in V/Line in past decades meant it struggled to maintain consistent performance.

Meanwhile, a new Geelong timetable to be released on ­August 26 will include three more weekday peak trains running to or from Waurn Ponds station.

It follows 289 services that have been added to the Geelong line in the past four years, Mr Weimar said.

V/Line data shows trips on the Geelong line have exploded from 3.38 million in 2008/2009 to 8,773,618 million in 2017/18. “We’re sitting on top of the fastest growing regional railway anywhere in Australia — probably the fastest growing railway anywhere in Australia,” Mr Weimar said.

“We’ve not seen that rate of growth on our railway in Australia ever before — certainly not in modern times.” Trips on the Geelong line accounted for almost 45 per cent of the trips taken on the entire V/Line network in 2016-17.

To meet surging demand, V/Line has doubled train services on the Geelong corridor in four years with services operating between Geelong and Melbourne every 10 minutes in peak times and 20 minutes off-peak.

Opposition transport spokesman David Davis said the Liberal/Nationals would spend $633 million to replace V/Line’s “long-haul rattlers” that make up 40 per cent of the fleet if they win the November election.

“Obviously we need rail work and other things to occur. Huge growth in population is a challenge to manage but it’s no excuse for not maintaining the trains properly,” Mr Davis said.

Mr Weimar said the State Government’s $50 million study into fast rail on the Geelong line will consider electrifying the Southern Cross to Wyndham Vale section to improve performance.

PATRONAGE GROWTH GEELONG LINE TRIPS FY 2017/2018: 8.77 million passenger trips FY 2016/2017: 7.72 million FY 2015/2016: 6.74 million FY 2014/2015: 4.24 million FY 2013/2014: 4.02 million FY 2012/2013: 3.89 million FY 2011/2012: 3.90 million FY 2010/2011: 3.77 million FY 2009/2010: 3.47 millionFY 2008/2009: 3.38 million


What worries me as a regular passenger on this route who goes Geelong - Waurn Ponds is in the evening it seems like if the train is anymore than 10 mins late coming from Melbourne they terminate it early at either Geelong, South or Marshall so that they can be "on time" for the trip back. Leaving Waurn Ponds passengers stranded and having to wait 40 mins for the next one. I would prefer 15mins late than not at all.  

wolvestrains
No doubt pathing constraints through the single track sections are a big contributor to that.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
On a very late running 07.13 Down Epsom service this morning. Late leaving SC, lost a mob of time to Sunbury and now trying to make up 20 minutes of time but failing dismally.

This is another one of those contra peak services that attracts many more passengers that I think anyone would have reckoned on when they did the RFR changes in the 2000s

Leaves SC maybe a third full but picks up pax all the way, many of then school kids who get on and off at various locations along the line. Now well over 2/3 full as we head towards Malmsbury and I expect a mob more will get on at CME where I will depart the train.

BG
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
On a very late running 07.13 Down Epsom service this morning. Late leaving SC, lost a mob of time to Sunbury and now trying to make up 20 minutes of time but failing dismally.

...

BG
BrentonGolding
having a bad day BG? both Metro and V/Line must have it in for you.

Should have stayed in bed. Did you ever arrive?

cheers
John
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
On a very late running 07.13 Down Epsom service this morning. Late leaving SC, lost a mob of time to Sunbury and now trying to make up 20 minutes of time but failing dismally.

This is another one of those contra peak services that attracts many more passengers that I think anyone would have reckoned on when they did the RFR changes in the 2000s

Leaves SC maybe a third full but picks up pax all the way, many of then school kids who get on and off at various locations along the line. Now well over 2/3 full as we head towards Malmsbury and I expect a mob more will get on at CME where I will depart the train.

BG
BrentonGolding
You tempted fate the other day by saying that things were going well. Obviously Vline/Metro/PTV heard about it and has taken positive action to correct the position.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
having a bad day BG? both Metro and V/Line must have it in for you.

Should have stayed in bed. Did you ever arrive?

cheers
John
justariderol
I thought that was a good news story, sorry, the first part was purely anecdotal! Arrived at CME 18 minutes behind the timetable, didn't bother me too much as there is no connecting bus to that service so it was the choice of a walk or cab to Maldon Junction for me. I normally get the 09.14 which has a bus connection but this week I have been playing around with different options as the GF is moving to North Melbourne next month which is going to make a world of difference to my trip.

Worked out OK for V/Line as we crossed the 09.08 Up SC from Castlemaine so no other services were delayed by our tardiness.

BTW, at least 40 more pax got on at CME and probably 10 got off so would have been starting to get pretty full by that stage.

BG
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Jolly bad news old chaps, the 16.57 Down Flagship Bendigo bought it again tonight!

BG
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
BG  oh dear, so sad.

Do they Uber, it might be cost competitive. Alternately I could suggest a slightly used T model ford to get there on time.

cheer up
John
  Contrillion Junior Train Controller

Location: Geelong, Victoria
Shaping up to be a disruption-filled morning peak on the Geelong line today.

The 7:11 Wyndham Vale-SCS service and every other Waurn Ponds-SCS service have been reduced to 3 carriages, with one of those services, the 6:27 up having failed and is stuck in the platform at Waurn Ponds which is causing some backlog in the single-track portion.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
BG  oh dear, so sad.

Do they Uber, it might be cost competitive. Alternately I could suggest a slightly used T model ford to get there on time.

cheer up
John
justarider
Are you driving the T? Because I don't have a licence!

BG
  justarider Chief Commissioner

Location: Free at last, free at last
BG  oh dear, so sad.

Do they Uber, it might be cost competitive. Alternately I could suggest a slightly used T model ford to get there on time.

cheer up
John
Are you driving the T? Because I don't have a licence!

BG
BrentonGolding
T are so old, didn't need a licence.Razz

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