Scott Morrison's imploding act

 

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  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

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  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
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justapassenger


Rename this Scott Morrison's vermin control?
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Just got to say, i love how quickly these threads arise.
I dont contribute much but there great to see appear!
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
Already 40 knives pointing at his back.

Remember that 38 was considered too many for Malcolm to fend off.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
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justapassenger
God-damn you sir, I wanted to have my name on the first Scott Morrison's-days-are-numbered thread! Wasn't quick enough.

Scotty is going to be a real-estate Prime Minister first and foremost, he has an extensive background in the property industry and also worked for a long time for the Property Council. I'd imagine the first point of order will be try and halt the current real-estate slides in Sydney and Melbourne so probably there will be first homeowner grants coming soon.
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
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justapassenger
Given the time of your post, I suspect that you had this, and the other each way bet, ready and waiting for the submit/cancel button to be hit.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

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Given the time of your post, I suspect that you had this, and the other each way bet, ready and waiting for the submit/cancel button to be hit.
mikesyd
Not actually, I just typed quickly.

I could have been even quicker if I had thought of it beforehand, and if the ABC News hosts had not waited for additional sources to confirm.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Replaced an absolute sleaze with an arrogant bully.
YM-Mundrabilla
What, has the ALP had a spill too?
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Turnbull played this well, he realised he had no numbers but managed to hold off the vote until Morrison could gain the numbers. Nice work Dutt’s you lose too!
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Correct JAP, lets not forget that Shorten is quite the sleaze, managing to impregnate what would become the Governor General’s daughter whilst still married to Debbie...
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Turnbull played this well, he realised he had no numbers but managed to hold off the vote until Morrison could gain the numbers. Nice work Dutt’s you lose too!
Aaron
The NSW Right are going to destroy Morrison just like they did Turnbull - and they'll be aided and abetted by Ray Hadlee and Alan Jones...
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Will he implode before the next election ?
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Turnbull played this well, he realised he had no numbers but managed to hold off the vote until Morrison could gain the numbers. Nice work Dutt’s you lose too!
The NSW Right are going to destroy Morrison just like they did Turnbull - and they'll be aided and abetted by Ray Hadlee and Alan Jones...
don_dunstan
The big difference though is that Morrison was loyal and didn't knife anyone just threw his hat into the ring once Turnbull had been told he had lost the support of the party room. So when the far right harp on about him many back benchers and others who are heartily sick of the whole business will probably just ignore them.

I just love that everyone got it wrong, Dutton, the media, everyone that I heard said Dutton was the next PM.

I reckon a couple of MPs who had said privately that they had been pressured changed there mind at the last.

BG (edit as the Dubya from my whole fell into a hole)
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
The big difference though is that Morrison was loyal and didn't knife anyone just threw his hat into the ring once Turnbull had been told he had lost the support of the party room. So when the far right harp on about him many back benchers and others who are heartily sick of the whole business will probably just ignore them.

I just love that everyone got it wrong, Dutton, the media, everyone that I heard said Dutton was the next PM.

I reckon a couple of MPs who had said privately that they had been pressured changed there mind at the last.

BG (edit as the Dubya from my whole fell into a hole)
BrentonGolding
Hello Brendan -

The biggest problem in my opinion is that it wasn't a decisive victory - and also that Morrison was obviously put there by Turnbull's lobbying on the way out (if he is in fact on the way out?).

It's become a blood-sport - everyone is talking about how we sacked another one. I was in the supermarket this arvo and people were talking about it... but it's not a good thing that we sack them with such monotonous regularity. It's no coincidence that a company that's performing badly will keep sacking CEO's just like we are.

I have to see where Morrison stands on the issues as I see them before I make up my mind. I want a proper investigation into the energy industry even if privatisation, green energy subsides and collusion are the real culprits behind exploding power prices - the truth has to be told to the public. Also something has to be done about the gas gouge that doesn't involve CSG - I'm greatly concerned that this might poison the water aquifer and its completely un-necessary in a country with as much gas as we have.

Finally I'm going to be really p*ssed at Morrison if he gives too many free kicks to the real-estate industry because I know he's going to be sorely tempted to do so.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
I have a strong feeling that Morrison's Government is going to lose the next election, People are just sick of the internal party coups and the constant policy changes that come with them.
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
So you really think people will vote in the ALP instead? The party that practically invented political knifings of sitting PMs? Goes right back to Hawke being stabbed by Keating.
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
So you really think people will vote in the ALP instead? The party that practically invented political knifings of sitting PMs? Goes right back to Hawke being stabbed by Keating.
Aaron
nope, I just think that the moderates are going to drift to the ALP (yeah the bit we disagree on) and while the LNP shall have its identity crisis the more 'Right' votes will drift to Katter and Hanson. My Prediction, though Probably wrong and thus the revolving door and political cycle continue.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Hello Brendan -
don_dunstan
So Don, I understand that you live in my home state of South Australia. You have even chosen as your Nom de type one of the most famous figures in SA political history. I also understand that you spent some time in Victoria. Were you born here?

My name is Brenton. I don't expect people from East of Serviceton to get it right but I certainly do expect people from SA. SA is after all the only place where Brenton is a popular choice of Christian name. It's not that hard. But it is common courtesy.

BG
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Hello Brendan -
So Don, I understand that you live in my home state of South Australia. You have even chosen as your Nom de type one of the most famous figures in SA political history. I also understand that you spent some time in Victoria. Were you born here?

My name is Brenton. I don't expect people from East of Serviceton to get it right but I certainly do expect people from SA. SA is after all the only place where Brenton is a popular choice of Christian name. It's not that hard. But it is common courtesy.

BG
BrentonGolding
Honestly didn't even see that I'd typed that -
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Careful BG or you will become a grumpy old bastard like me .............. :lol:It's not your fault that you were born in SA.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
Careful BG or you will become a grumpy old bastard like me .............. :lol:It's not your fault that you were born in SA.
YM-Mundrabilla
I've been a grumpy bastard for years YM. I kinda like it. Normally I don't care about people thinking my name is Brendan. Or Quentin. Or Trenton. But Don Dunstan? I was born in Adelaide between his Premierships. He should know better!

BG
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Speaking of political parties who knife their own or coalition members, many here recall Harold Holt disappeared while swimming on 17 December 1967 and was declared presumed drowned two days later. The following Wiki URL gives the following, so naturally please analyse it for accuracy if desired, as my memory of the  Liberals 1967- 1971 sage comes from the media at the time so perhaps not the full picture plus my memory of then is perhaps just that.

Holt’s presumed successor was Liberal deputy leader William McMahon. However, on 18 December, the Country Party leader and Deputy Prime Minister John McEwen announced that if McMahon were named the new Liberal leader, he and his party would not serve under him. His reasons were never stated publicly, but in a private meeting with McMahon, he said "I will not serve under you because I do not trust you". McEwen's shock declaration triggered a leadership crisis within the Liberal Party; even more significantly, it raised the threat of a possible breaking of the Coalition, which would spell electoral disaster for the Liberals. Up to that time, the Liberals had never won enough seats in any House of Representatives election to be able to govern without Country Party support.

(Petan’s reflection; As we know, Gorton became PM and Billy Big Ears McMahon did the knife job on Gorton in 1971 so McMahon became PM. Also remember the Liberals was unlucky to come up against a new and formidable Labor Opposition Leader in Gough Whitlam.  Same with ALP's Bill Hayden who was replaced by Bob Hawke just a few weeks before the 1983 election and the ALP swept the coalition from office.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gorton
  mikesyd Chief Commissioner

Location: Lurking
So you really think people will vote in the ALP instead? The party that practically invented political knifings of sitting PMs? Goes right back to Hawke being stabbed by Keating.
Aaron
By my count, its only 3-2 in favour of the ALP at present. And at least one failed attempt on either side too.

Keating - Hawke (1st failed, second succeeded)
Gillard - Rudd
Rudd - Gillard

Turnbull - Abbott (1st failed, second succeeded)
Dutton of course failed twice, as Morrison jumped over him in his second attempt.

The knives have seen more use in the back of Opposition leaders.
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
So you really think people will vote in the ALP instead? The party that practically invented political knifings of sitting PMs? Goes right back to Hawke being stabbed by Keating.
By my count, its only 3-2 in favour of the ALP at present. And at least one failed attempt on either side too.

Keating - Hawke (1st failed, second succeeded)
Gillard - Rudd
Rudd - Gillard

Turnbull - Abbott (1st failed, second succeeded)
Dutton of course failed twice, as Morrison jumped over him in his second attempt.

The knives have seen more use in the back of Opposition leaders.
It has been going on for much longer than that. Hawke did over Bill Hayden before going on to win the "drover's dog" election. Billy McMahon challenged John Gorton twice, first unsuccessfully then ultimately winning the leadership of the Libs in 1971 and then losing to Whitlam in 72.

Pig Iron Bob Menzies was ousted while in office the first time around in the UAP government, in 1941 when he returned from OS he found he had lost support of the party and resigned, going on to create the Liberal Party, winning government and serving as PM fron 1949 to 1966

And further back that that Aus politics was really messy with characters like Billy Hughes "the little digger" who represented six political parties during his career, leading five, outlasting four, and being expelled from three. He brought down the Bruce government in 1928 when he and his supporters in the coalition crossed the floor on a confidence motion.

Interestingly Hughes started his political career in the ALP and ended up in the UAP where he was deposed as leader by none other than Robert Menzies in 1939! And they talk about class traitors these days, maybe Malcolm should fulfill his destiny, join the Labor Party and lead them into a golden decade in office! Or not.

Things might be ugly ATM but it's not a new phenomenon and it's not a patch on Italian politics. We were just fortunate enough to have some fairly stable years up until 2009.

BG
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
BTW for an insight into how chaotic Aus politics was in the 30s and 40s it is worth reading this brief history of the UAP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Australia_Party

No confidence motions, defections and knifings were the order of the day back then, Lyons held things together for a while before his death sparked a whole new level of betrayal!

BG

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