Scott Morrison's imploding act

 

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  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
And this sort of stuff is exactly why I and dare others are against, privatization. The process and tenders are commercial in confidence, read grey and, the regulators seem to be an incompetent piece of wet lettuce. But it was allowed. Darwin port sale/lease is a joke. $506 million and iNT have already spent it. Shane? EDIT. If governments shouldn't be running these businesses, due to competitive forces, they also struggle in maximizing return for the taxpayer. Why?

Curious to know what Robb, knew. And evidently wasn't that valuable or had served his purpose.

And Don,yep, even Barnyard worked it out.
Certainly not rocket science.
michaelgm
The ABC did a scathing analysis of what a bad deal the sale of the Port of Darwin was for the NT government - pretty much a fire sale with very little consultation with Defence or FIRB or any other interested parties. And now the money has been spent and they're still hopelessly in debt.

The problem with looting the government (at all levels) is that there's nothing left to privatise - even things like the Land Titles Office have been flogged off here in SA and in most other states.

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  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
As far as I'm concerned Robb should be dangling from the end of a rope. What he did was treasonous,sold out for a few shekels.(well a lot actually)
wobert
I don't think these people appreciate the precariousness of their situation - if things suddenly went very sour with the Chinese Communist Party then people like Robb would be in the sights of our intelligence agencies wanting to know exactly what he passed onto them. And it's more than likely that he's been cultivated to extract secrets...

Also people like Senator Penny Wong who has been the recipient of Communist Party largess in the past (free "study trip" to China) would also be subject to suspicion.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Via the Australian: Apparently most of the LNP front bench was at a Liberal Party fund-raiser at the Pratt family mansion in Kew (VIC) last night - Josh Frydenburg wasn't recognised by security poor petal

Anyway the fundraiser was extremely poorly patronised:

“The Libs aren’t going to bloody win are they?” one well-connected Melbourne business person told us, explaining the lack of paying guests.

No, they're not. So all the business lobbyists have already moved to smooching the ALP knowing full well the Liberals only have moments left in office.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
And as a matter of pure academic interest, the Pratt family mansion is "Raheen" which, for many years, was the official residence of the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Melbourne.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Speaking of a bunch of Pratt's, well, isn't this the current Liberal Party? RazzLaughing

Kind Regards
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Nice to see Bob Hawke and his biographer Blanche what-ever have sold their posh Northbridge NSW house for a cool $14 million after purchasing it for $1.23 million in 1991 - Domain.

I particularly liked this very flattering picture, it really shows what a true working class man-of-the-people he is sitting atop tens of millions of dollars together with his adoring biographer whom he married:
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
We have unemployment officially nudging six percent here in South Australia, under-employment at 9%, but the Liberal Party says we have a skills shortage on the $80 billion submarines project and that we need skilled migrants. From News.com.au:

The new visa rules, being trialled by the State Government, will make it easier for overseas migrants wanting to join extended family in SA by scrapping the need to have a bachelor’s degree.

The move is expected to help bring in tradies to fill jobs in the shipbuilding and associated industries…

Business SA CEO Nigel McBride said… “One of the great demands in our state is for trade occupations”…

His sentiments were echoed by Adelaide migration agent Mark Glazbrook, who said overseas tradies could fill some gaps…

Immigration SA also has made changes to its nomination policies so that current and former students that have remained in South Australia since March 2012 will be offered state nomination for provisional visas.

So they asked a migration agent if South Australia needed more migrants and the answer was a resounding "yes"? What a shock.

I for one am unhappy that this really expensive Work-for-the-Dole project got the go-ahead but the fact that they're not even looking to employ locals adds insult to injury.

My understanding is that metal fabricators and welders are the most-needed trade on that Osborne SA site - why not team up with local SA TAFE to produce people who can fill those jobs rather than import 'skilled' migrants as a first resort?
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

We have unemployment officially nudging six percent here in South Australia, under-employment at 9%, but the Liberal Party says we have a skills shortage on the $80 billion submarines project and that we need skilled migrants. From News.com.au:

The new visa rules, being trialled by the State Government, will make it easier for overseas migrants wanting to join extended family in SA by scrapping the need to have a bachelor’s degree.

The move is expected to help bring in tradies to fill jobs in the shipbuilding and associated industries…

Business SA CEO Nigel McBride said… “One of the great demands in our state is for trade occupations”…

His sentiments were echoed by Adelaide migration agent Mark Glazbrook, who said overseas tradies could fill some gaps…

Immigration SA also has made changes to its nomination policies so that current and former students that have remained in South Australia since March 2012 will be offered state nomination for provisional visas.

So they asked a migration agent if South Australia needed more migrants and the answer was a resounding "yes"? What a shock.

I for one am unhappy that this really expensive Work-for-the-Dole project got the go-ahead but the fact that they're not even looking to employ locals adds insult to injury.

My understanding is that metal fabricators and welders are the most-needed trade on that Osborne SA site - why not team up with local SA TAFE to produce people who can fill those jobs rather than import 'skilled' migrants as a first resort?
don_dunstan
I hate to say it Don, but the attrition rate for local kids doing a TAFE welding course is dreadful going on past experience.  I have a cousin who out of the 50 that started one year, he was the only one who finished the course.  He's one of the best pipeline welder and metal fabricators in the country.  And quite happy to run his own successful small business in the bush these days.

And why do companies like to employ overseas skilled migrants? - No long lead-in period in training them up and generally much more reliable...

Sad but true.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
I hate to say it Don, but the attrition rate for local kids doing a TAFE welding course is dreadful going on past experience.  I have a cousin who out of the 50 that started one year, he was the only one who finished the course.  He's one of the best pipeline welder and metal fabricators in the country.  And quite happy to run his own successful small business in the bush these days.

And why do companies like to employ overseas skilled migrants? - No long lead-in period in training them up and generally much more reliable...

Sad but true.
Carnot
So we should be getting Indonesian Special Forces and Chinese Red Army operatives here with welding skills to help complete this very sensitive defense project? I'm sure they'll really appreciate being able to help us with our future fighting capabilities while learning all about our submarine and destroyer weak spots.

This project is a sad joke; if it can't even employ locals then it should have been given to Japan or the United States to build them off-shore for half the price.
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

I hate to say it Don, but the attrition rate for local kids doing a TAFE welding course is dreadful going on past experience.  I have a cousin who out of the 50 that started one year, he was the only one who finished the course.  He's one of the best pipeline welder and metal fabricators in the country.  And quite happy to run his own successful small business in the bush these days.

And why do companies like to employ overseas skilled migrants? - No long lead-in period in training them up and generally much more reliable...

Sad but true.
So we should be getting Indonesian Special Forces and Chinese Red Army operatives here with welding skills to help complete this very sensitive defense project? I'm sure they'll really appreciate being able to help us with our future fighting capabilities while learning all about our submarine and destroyer weak spots.

This project is a sad joke; if it can't even employ locals then it should have been given to Japan or the United States to build them off-shore for half the price.
don_dunstan
That's probably embellishing things a bit!  Most of the welders are probably Indian or Filipino.

Meanwhile, Clive Plamer should spend more money fixing his crumbling Nickel Refinery instead of blowing it all on TV, billboard, and Internet ads:  https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-14/clive-palmer-yabulu-qld-nickel-refinery-qld/10897998
  BrentonGolding Chief Commissioner

Location: Maldon Junction
And as a matter of pure academic interest, the Pratt family mansion is "Raheen" which, for many years, was the official residence of the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Melbourne.
Valvegear
Where Archbishop Daniel Mannix lived for 45 years diagonally opposite Studley Hall the home of John Wren made famous by Frank Hardy's book Power Without Glory.

http://www.openhouses.org.au/wren_house.html

Wren was reputed to have bought Raheen for the church or at the least given some or all of the funds to it.

Who says the Catholic Church is out of touch!

BG
  Carnot Chief Commissioner

And as a matter of pure academic interest, the Pratt family mansion is "Raheen" which, for many years, was the official residence of the Roman Catholic Archbishop of Melbourne.
Where Archbishop Daniel Mannix lived for 45 years diagonally opposite Studley Hall the home of John Wren made famous by Frank Hardy's book Power Without Glory.

http://www.openhouses.org.au/wren_house.html

Wren was reputed to have bought Raheen for the church or at the least given some or all of the funds to it.

Who says the Catholic Church is out of touch!

BG
BrentonGolding
Dig deeper and you'll discover that Richard Pratt was the Godfather of Deborah Beale, who is Bill Shorten's ex-wife.  And Bill went to Xavier College which now owns Wren House....
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
That's probably embellishing things a bit!  Most of the welders are probably Indian or Filipino.
Carnot
So again, don't employ locals, don't train locals. What actual benefit is the $80 billion to South Australia again? Just another excuse to load us up with low wage 457's like they've done to Sydney and Melbourne?
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
And another Lib jumps ship . . . Craig Laundy will not be re-contesting the seat of Reid at the next election.
  Groundrelay Chief Commissioner

Location: Surrounded by Trolls!
That's probably embellishing things a bit!  Most of the welders are probably Indian or Filipino.
So again, don't employ locals, don't train locals. What actual benefit is the $80 billion to South Australia again? Just another excuse to load us up with low wage 457's like they've done to Sydney and Melbourne?
don_dunstan
Suggestions of a 'Living Wage' has been attacked by Morrison (predictably). The LNP has always sided with employers over workers as there is never a good time to increase wages Razz

The usual line is "it will cost jobs" however this lot has never been concerned with saving a job that can be done cheaper through technology or using imported cheap labour.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
So again, don't employ locals, don't train locals. What actual benefit is the $80 billion to South Australia again? Just another excuse to load us up with low wage 457's like they've done to Sydney and Melbourne?
Suggestions of a 'Living Wage' has been attacked by Morrison (predictably). The LNP has always sided with employers over workers as there is never a good time to increase wages Razz

The usual line is "it will cost jobs" however this lot has never been concerned with saving a job that can be done cheaper through technology or using imported cheap labour.
Groundrelay
And yet Treasury is telling them that if wages don't start going up soon that they'll never be able to conquer the budget deficit, let alone arrest our slide towards $700 billion (or maybe even a trillion) in accumulated government debt. At some stage the international money markets are going to determine that we're living well beyond our means and pull the rug out from under us - we've been living as through we're a high-wage high-skill first world nation when really we're not - well not any longer anyway.

Having said that I don't agree with Shorten's plan to lift minimum wages - my problem being that in many industries like hospitality awards get ignored anyway. It's pointless lifting awards when the entire system is not being properly policed.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Agreed, Don. When awards are not enforced or ignored, why do Scumo and Co have an issue with lifting the minimum wage?
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Nice to see Bob Hawke and his biographer Blanche what-ever have sold their posh Northbridge NSW house for a cool $14 million after purchasing it for $1.23 million in 1991 - Domain.

I particularly liked this very flattering picture, it really shows what a true working class man-of-the-people he is sitting atop tens of millions of dollars together with his adoring biographer whom he married:
don_dunstan
Does anyone actually think Bob Hawke was "working class"? The guy has multiple degrees, one of which is Law and a Rhodes Scholar. He made his millions as an outcome of being respected long standing PM and then capitalising on this in the private sector after leaving office.

Note: anyone kid dreaming of being the PM, you must have either a Law Degree AND/OR be a Rhodes Scholar to have half a chance. Fraser, Rudd and Morrison being the only ones who got the job since mid 70's without.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
And yet Treasury is telling them that if wages don't start going up soon that they'll never be able to conquer the budget deficit, let alone arrest our slide towards $700 billion (or maybe even a trillion) in accumulated government debt. At some stage the international money markets are going to determine that we're living well beyond our means and pull the rug out from under us - we've been living as through we're a high-wage high-skill first world nation when really we're not - well not any longer anyway.

Having said that I don't agree with Shorten's plan to lift minimum wages - my problem being that in many industries like hospitality awards get ignored anyway. It's pointless lifting awards when the entire system is not being properly policed.
don_dunstan
Aussie govt net debt is $550B, however the international Money markets have few concerns about our ability to repay this and we have long way to go, at least doubling before this would even be a concern for them.

Still not an excuse to increase the level of debt and focus should be on reducing.
  Brianr Assistant Commissioner

Location: Dunedin, New Zealand
Paul Keating left school at age 14.
  RTT_Rules Dr Beeching

Location: Dubai UAE
Paul Keating left school at age 14.
Brianr
Thanks, I forgot about him! I think unlikely someone could repeat this today.
  Valvegear Dr Beeching

Location: Norda Fittazroy
It seems timely to point out that while Morrison was pooncing around doing the world's most expensive photo shoot on Christmas Island, eastern Victoria was copping the worst bushfires since Black Saturday. Morrison showed a lot of concern - lack of.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: I was here first. You're only visiting.
It seems timely to point out that while Morrison was pooncing around doing the world's most expensive photo shoot on Christmas Island, eastern Victoria was copping the worst bushfires since Black Saturday. Morrison showed a lot of concern - lack of.
Valvegear
The recent fires in Gippsland, in area, are significant and can be loosely termed as the worse since Black Saturday, especially considering property loss, but probably need to be balanced against the Hazelwood mine fire in 2014 that blanketed the surrounding area in toxic fumes for 45 days. The ongoing 'cost' of that event is incalculable.

Morrison probably showed a lack of concern due to the rural areas of Gippsland being firm Nationals. He would probably rather lance that boil than to appear to be warm and fuzzy with them.
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Does anyone actually think Bob Hawke was "working class"? The guy has multiple degrees, one of which is Law and a Rhodes Scholar. He made his millions as an outcome of being respected long standing PM and then capitalising on this in the private sector after leaving office.
RTT_Rules
He certainly sold himself as 'just a working class bloke' if you look at the promos while he was PM in the eighties; he was also really good a picking up the zeitgeist ie; jumping on board with the Australia II victory.
Note: anyone kid dreaming of being the PM, you must have either a Law Degree AND/OR be a Rhodes Scholar to have half a chance. Fraser, Rudd and Morrison being the only ones who got the job since mid 70's without.
RTT_Rules
Ben Chifley was a train driver; it's almost impossible to imagine someone without a law degree or connections rising to the top now-days. I guess the other lawyers keep them out!
  don_dunstan Minister for Railways

Location: Adelaide proud
Aussie govt net debt is $550B, however the international Money markets have few concerns about our ability to repay this and we have long way to go, at least doubling before this would even be a concern for them.

Still not an excuse to increase the level of debt and focus should be on reducing.
RTT_Rules
Gross debt has doubled in six years - that in itself should tell you that we're not operating on a sustainable footing.

A lot of the prosperity we've been enjoying this decade is purely from government spending - for example, NDIS has created around 300,000 jobs purely from the taxpayer purse. It's interesting to note that our current LNP government is by far the biggest taxing biggest spending government we've ever had, estimated to be spending $90 billion this year - up from just $75 billion only a few years ago.

Socialist prosperity from the Liberal Party?

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