XPT to Adelaide

 
Topic moved from South Australia by dthead on 25 Nov 2018 23:54
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
What do you think of the XPT arriving into Adelaide station sometime soon? And new intercity trains to Port Pirie. Would you like that to happen?

Feel free to ask me any questions!

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  42101 A end Junior Train Controller

Are you serious???
XPT for one is life expired
2 it does not run anywhere out that way...closest run is to Dubbo.
  M636C Minister for Railways

Extension is spelled with an 's"
  Aaron Minister for Railways

Location: University of Adelaide SA
What gauge is the XPT?
  trainguy84 Junior Train Controller

Hi

For starters the Adelaide Station is broad Guage.

Secondly there is only one return service to Broken Hill per week.

Also the XPTs are standard Guage.
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
Are you serious???
XPT for one is life expired
2 it does not run anywhere out that way...closest run is to Dubbo.
42101 A end
1. By the time the extension to Adelaide is done, There would be a brand new XPT.

2. The closest run is actually to Broken Hill. And Broken Hill is on the same line as the line to Adelaide. That has Freight Trains, Steam Trains, and the Indian Pacific beyond Broken Hill. IN NORMAL GAUGE!

3. Don't try and insult me.
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
Extension is spelled with an 's"
M636C
Don't expect a kid to have the best spelling!
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
What gauge is the XPT?
Aaron
Normal. It is the same gauge as this part of the railway network.
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
Hi

For starters the Adelaide Station is broad Guage.

Secondly there is only one return service to Broken Hill per week.

Also the XPTs are standard Guage.
trainguy84
From what I know. The line that we are using is normal.

With this proposal, services will grow from more then once a week.
  justapassenger Chief Commissioner

Do you have a magic money tree to pay for this service to run?
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Hi

For starters the Adelaide Station is broad Guage.

Secondly there is only one return service to Broken Hill per week.

Also the XPTs are standard Guage.
trainguy84

The Broken Hill return service from Sydney is an Explorer I believe.
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
Serious question, has an XPT ever ventured into SA or to Adelaide itself?
  Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

Location: On a Thing with Internet
Are you serious???
XPT for one is life expired
2 it does not run anywhere out that way...closest run is to Dubbo.
1. By the time the extension to Adelaide is done, There would be a brand new XPT.

2. The closest run is actually to Broken Hill. And Broken Hill is on the same line as the line to Adelaide. That has Freight Trains, Steam Trains, and the Indian Pacific beyond Broken Hill. IN NORMAL GAUGE!

3. Don't try and insult me.
AheadMatthewawsome
Normal gauge is the broad gauge. Get a Nice long distance Vlo instead
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
Are you serious???
XPT for one is life expired
2 it does not run anywhere out that way...closest run is to Dubbo.
1. By the time the extension to Adelaide is done, There would be a brand new XPT.

2. The closest run is actually to Broken Hill. And Broken Hill is on the same line as the line to Adelaide. That has Freight Trains, Steam Trains, and the Indian Pacific beyond Broken Hill. IN NORMAL GAUGE!

3. Don't try and insult me.
Normal gauge is the broad gauge. Get a Nice long distance Vlo instead
Dangersdan707
You just gave me another idea! Vlo trains from Melbourne to Adelaide!
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

And where are the passengers to come from for this train?
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
And where are the passengers to come from for this train?
theanimal
It would start at Central in Sydney, then go to Orange then Broken Hill. Passengers from local areas would also catch that train. It would come once a day on a weekend and twice a day during the weekdays.
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
And the stops will be,

Parramatta
Blacktown
Penrith
Katoomba
Mount Victoria
Lithgow
Bathurst
Blayney
Orange
Parkes
Condobodin
Ivanhoe
Menindee
Broken Hill
Cockburn
Yunta
Peterbourgh
Jamestown
Gladstone
Crystal Brook
Mallala
Edinbourgh Airport
Sailsbury
and Adelaide.
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

And where are the passengers to come from for this train?
It would start at Central in Sydney, then go to Orange then Broken Hill. Passengers from local areas would also catch that train. It would come once a day on a weekend and twice a day during the weekdays.
AheadMatthewawsome
you are dreaming, have you been west of say Parkes? the population is too small to justify a service of the level you seem to think is sustainable.

Look at Peterborough, a large town by the standards of rural South Australia, but it exists without any passenger trains, indeed it can only support a 3 day a week bus service.

Again where are your passengers to come from?
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

And where are the passengers to come from for this train?
It would start at Central in Sydney, then go to Orange then Broken Hill. Passengers from local areas would also catch that train. It would come once a day on a weekend and twice a day during the weekdays.
AheadMatthewawsome
I wonder how long such a journey might take. The Explorer leaves Sydney soon after 6am and arrives at Broken Hill at 7:40pm. From there to Adelaide via Crystal Brook the Indian Pacific needs maybe 7 hours. An XPT will be faster over that stretch, but probably no faster than the Explorer in NSW, so it's likely to be more than 16 hours for the journey. At what time would you see this train leaving each end of the route? A train leaving Sydney at a more user friendly time of 10am will get to Adelaide at 4am. Either way there will be overnight travel required, something the XPT is not good for.
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
We are getting new XPT's you know. Like London's South East's High Speed Trains! If we can upgrade them for something fast enough to get there in 8-12 hours, it will be fine.

Also, the Indian Pacific is slower then the XPT, so there would be a difference.

And we can always make a High Speed rail network in new rails.
  theanimal Chief Commissioner

We are getting new XPT's you know. Like London's South East's High Speed Trains! If we can upgrade them for something fast enough to get there in 8-12 hours, it will be fine.

Also, the Indian Pacific is slower then the XPT, so there would be a difference.

And we can always make a High Speed rail network in new rails.
AheadMatthewawsome
I feel that by trying to respond to your posts with sensible questions, all we are doing is feeding a troll.

Why would you stop a train at Cockburn or Yunta, there are no platforms there, Cockburn has a population of 56 and Yunta has 85.

You are dreaming, your other posts indicate that you are probably aged 14 and still waiting for your voice to break.

There is no money in regional rail. As you can see from the populations, there are no votes there. on Tuesday 6 November I caught the Explorer ex Broken Hill back to Penrith, the 3 carriages were reasonably patronised, but it was apparent that the passengers were all travelling on a concession, ( I was on an retired employees first class pass)

the demographic it attracts is because regional fares in Australia are expensive, and there is no discount for being on any type of concession. So it is the train for those people.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
Are you serious???
XPT for one is life expired
2 it does not run anywhere out that way...closest run is to Dubbo.
1. By the time the extension to Adelaide is done, There would be a brand new XPT.

2. The closest run is actually to Broken Hill. And Broken Hill is on the same line as the line to Adelaide. That has Freight Trains, Steam Trains, and the Indian Pacific beyond Broken Hill. IN NORMAL GAUGE!

3. Don't try and insult me.
AheadMatthewawsome
Since you are posting on Railpage ipso facto you have access to the internet so use the internet to investigate your own suggestions before you post them on Railpage, otherwise you might be insulting yourself!!!  Maybe you have heard of train timetable websites so use them to determine total length of travel Sydney Adelaide and then work out the realities of your suggestion as to arrival and departure times at each end.

Your statements about gauge suggest you have not done your homework, especially the 'normal' claim as there are two main stations in Adelaide with the Indian Pacific, Ghan etc using one and the other main terminal is the traditional station on what is the **normal gauge** for South Australia, hint not standard gauge which is what you termed 'normal gauge'. If you want to gamble on you being right, go right ahead, as there is a casino at one of those stations!

Just in case you have not heard of Bill Boeing, use the internet to discover what the company he started manufactures and then also use the internet to find what an A320 is, as both the Boeing and A320 offer travel between Sydney and Adelaide without having to sit up all those hours overnight to get from point A to point B. Oh, there might be cheaper fares with the last two items (Boeing etc) as well unless you are on a concession.
  petan Chief Commissioner

Location: Waiting to see a zebra using a zebra crossing!
And the stops will be,

Parramatta
Blacktown
(lots snipped due space)
Edinbourgh Airport
and Adelaide.
AheadMatthewawsome
One of those places you mentioned (Edinburgh Airport sic) is not a public airport, and only people with a very special permit get to board a plane there. There are people with real weapons to enforce that restriction as well at that place. While the people with permission to enter that place might like a train ride, I suspect they might have better ways to get around. After all, that airport operator has a very demanding selection process, so the people who work there are expected to be able to think and problem solve for themselves!
  james.au Chief Commissioner

Location: Sydney, NSW
And the stops will be,

Parramatta
Blacktown
Penrith
Katoomba
Mount Victoria
Lithgow
Bathurst
Blayney
Orange
Parkes
Condobodin
Ivanhoe
Menindee
Broken Hill
Cockburn
Yunta
Peterbourgh
Jamestown
Gladstone
Crystal Brook
Mallala
Edinbourgh Airport
Sailsbury
and Adelaide.
AheadMatthewawsome
Too many - look at the XPT to Melbourne and the characteristics of the places it (regularly) stops at and have another go
  AheadMatthewawsome Junior Train Controller

Location: Opening Train Lines
I did have a look. And I think it will be the best idea.

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