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    News article: It's time to act on fast rail

    Chief Minister Andrew Barr's statement that "the immediate focus should be on making the train faster and not on developing a high speed network" in reference to the future of the Canberra-Sydney rail link.

      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    If that was done especially with the realignments making 200Km/h achievable but provide for future faster services when the need arises at least should be in the futures planning for rail.
    a6et
    I would suggest that those parts of the corridor which could be rebuilt on the existing route should be upgraded to allow for 200km/h electrified passenger service and 140km/h electric-hauled fast intermodal and ro-ro truck carriers.

    New bypasses should be built to allow for 250km/h with passing loops for fast freight and the old line retained for heavy freight. No point going any slower than that if we want to make rail more attractive.
    Posted: 14 Jan 2020 15:03

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      ANR Chief Commissioner
    Posted: 15 Jan 2020 13:07
      The Vinelander Minister for Railways

    Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
    Coincidence? I deeedent think so....


    https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/conspiracists-say-lasers-and-exploding-smart-meters-used-to-start-bushfires-to-make-way-for-a-new-train-network/news-story/24f154722befb3b3c20b748e3336ea19
    ANR

    There are actually people who believe this stuff Question

    Is it any wonder we ended up with ScoMo running the country.

    Mike.
    Posted: 15 Jan 2020 13:39
      RedEyeExpress Junior Train Controller

    Location: Melbourne
    Let people believe what they want to believe ????

    I've heard rumours of the Railpage forums being controlled by a shadowy global elite.......
    Posted: 15 Jan 2020 13:59
      Lad_Porter Chief Commissioner

    Location: Yarra Glen
    Coincidence? I deeedent think so....


    https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/social/conspiracists-say-lasers-and-exploding-smart-meters-used-to-start-bushfires-to-make-way-for-a-new-train-network/news-story/24f154722befb3b3c20b748e3336ea19

    There are actually people who believe this stuff Question

    Is it any wonder we ended up with ScoMo running the country.

    Mike.
    The Vinelander
    "running"?????
    Posted: 15 Jan 2020 14:19
      Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Richmond Vic
    Of course the link draws a parallel with California; home of the ratbag conspiracy movement.
    Posted: 15 Jan 2020 14:21
      viaprojects Chief Train Controller


    There are actually people who believe this stuff Question

    The Vinelander


    NASA / NOAA meteorologists are having fun with the amount of data from bush fires ... some one will miss quote the reports ..
    Posted: 15 Jan 2020 14:49
      justapassenger Minister for Railways

    Let people believe what they want to believe ????

    I've heard rumours of the Railpage forums being controlled by a shadowy global elite.......
    RedEyeExpress
    More like a global mediocrity.
    Posted: 15 Jan 2020 15:49
      C2 Junior Train Controller

    With the 200k/h idea the NSW government and feds should upgrade Goulburn to Central as a bang for buck. 2 hrs Gouldburn then 3 hrs Canberra. Andrews could get onboard with more freight on rail Melbourne end. Then Gouldburn to Yass  next stage Then Yass Junee. Corrupt corporations to chuck in too. Only Coota missed out. No new satilite city's just more housing in the towns benefited from higher speed rail. ARTC is to be sold oneday so will they look at ideas like this then or not.
    Posted: 15 Jan 2020 23:24
      C2 Junior Train Controller

    Any Rupert Murdoch media is 200% fake news a should be seen as high level trolling. I did 20 yrs at the Alchemists Ghetto creating spells for zombies to pay  towards the Anglo Judo Allah for atheists.
    Posted: 15 Jan 2020 23:33
      Carnot Minister for Railways

    The people that dream up conspiracy theories on High speed rail and Agenda 21/2030 are the same people that wear Aussie flag bikinis at protests against mosques being built.
    Posted: 16 Jan 2020 18:55
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    Start at Macurthur, head souh and rebuild the corridor to 200km/h, max, 150km/h average running, no more, no less is needed.

    Phase 1 - Macuthur to Goulburn, route to Moss Vale will include long 3rd track passing lanes.
    Phase 2 - Gou to Canberra
    Phase 3 - Junee
    Phase 4 - Wagga includes longer passing lanes
    Phase 5 - Albury includes longer passing lanes
    etc

    From Melbourne side
    Phase 1 also includes Broadmeadows to Seymour
    Phase 2 Wang
    Phase 3 Albury

    Freights will share the same corridor, ma 115km/h, which means if the average speed is 150km/h for Pax, then they should be able to hold 115km/h most of the time.

    Higher speed freight is purely market driven by the operators.

    The old corridor will be decommissioned and disposed of, seriously why on earth would you keep it? Duplicated or mostly duplicated track for even double the current volume of traffic is sufficient. High speed cross overs between the tracks enables unrestricted passing.
    Posted: 17 Jan 2020 13:40
      mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

    while HSR would almost certainly be exclusively for passenger services, where the demand wouldn't be there to make it viable.

    How do we know the demand wouldn't be there to make it viable Question

    Stats, data, projections...would seem to be the logical progression of this thread...not simply hearsay from a naysayer/s.

    Mike.
    The Vinelander
    No. Anthony Albanese knows that Melbourne to Sydney HSR does not stack up and that the demand will not be there, that is why you have not heard anything concrete in a way of a plan for this Unicorn.

    Improve the existing corridor. $100 Billion can be spent on something more important like Education or Health.

    Michael
    Posted: 24 Jan 2020 21:42
      C2 Junior Train Controller

    What the......He will 100% buy the land in the Outer burbs Mel Syd for HSR why would he bring it up now with Atomic Bushfires Decemation of our heritage .. Elbow spruiks We need fast trains now run on a Duracell
    ...The Right write their opinion as fact is why that snowflake has a poison Dart and it hurt.
    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 01:00
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    What the......He will 100% buy the land in the Outer burbs Mel Syd for HSR why would he bring it up now with Atomic Bushfires Decemation of our heritage .. Elbow spruiks We need fast trains now run on a Duracell
    ...The Right write their opinion as fact is why that snowflake has a poison Dart and it hurt.
    C2
    The ALP when last in power made no further progress on HSR than Howard or LNP since.

    All the recent studies say the same thing, not viable before mid 2030's.

    Additionally with the fed's half a trillion in debt, they will not be rushing into building something that cannot even cover its operation costs.
    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 04:24
      C2 Junior Train Controller

    Right Right Right  I said the land at the outskirts of the two city's. .But I guess I have to say Thanks for the  scribble . The ALP haven't been in Government since  96
    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 09:16
      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    If the ALP haven't been in government since 1996, then who was leading us from 2007-2013?
    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 11:46
      michaelgm Chief Commissioner

    If the ALP haven't been in government since 1996, then who was leading us from 2007-2013?
    railblogger
    Oakshott and Windsor.Laughing
    Posted: 26 Jan 2020 11:53
      ANR Chief Commissioner

    .... and the faceless men.....
    Posted: 01 Feb 2020 00:15
      C2 Junior Train Controller

    Wilkie still here.. Albo's going to lend a lot of money from China is my gut feeling. If When Hopefully
    Posted: 01 Feb 2020 05:09
      RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

    Location: Dubai UAE
    Wilkie still here.. Albo's going to lend a lot of money from China is my gut feeling. If When Hopefully
    C2
    No, it won't happen. Neither side of govt is going to go cap in hand to borrow the money to build HSR. If the private sector cannot make it pay with some tax and credits, it won't happen. Albo doesn't and won't have the money to do so and assuming the ALP gets into govt next time, they still have a $400B debt with alot of pressure not to make it worse as ALP have near zero credibility on debt management in the voting public.
    Posted: 01 Feb 2020 18:42
      SEMartin Chief Train Controller

    Location: Canberra ACT
    If the ALP haven't been in government since 1996, then who was leading us from 2007-2013?
    railblogger
    Not sure which Alternate Timeline you come from, but hello the Man in the High Castle.
    Posted: 03 Feb 2020 09:55
      railblogger Chief Commissioner

    Location: At the back of the train, quitely doing exactly what you'd expect.
    @SEMartin I come from a timeline in which we live in a dystopian world ruled by a corrupt worldwide government with an iron fist.
    Posted: 03 Feb 2020 17:30
      SEMartin Chief Train Controller

    Location: Canberra ACT
    @SEMartin I come from a timeline in which we live in a dystopian world ruled by a corrupt worldwide government with an iron fist.
    railblogger
    Quote in haste, repent at leisure. Should've cut C2's quoted text instead.
    Posted: 04 Feb 2020 10:33
      Dangersdan707 Chief Commissioner

    Location: On a Thing with Internet
    @SEMartin I come from a timeline in which we live in a dystopian world ruled by a corrupt worldwide government with an iron fist.
    railblogger
    So the United States?
    Posted: 04 Feb 2020 13:34

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