The corona virus COVID-19

 
  Carnot Minister for Railways

The Brisvegas situation continues to develop. Attention is now being directed to Byron Bay and a potential Hen's Party outbreak...

What's meant to stay in Brisvegas is leaking from Brisvegas...

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  djf01 Chief Commissioner

What do deportations, Visas, refugees et al have to do with COVID-19?
Valvegear
Both @RTT_Rules and @Aron are making a very compelling case that we should be doing *less*, not more, to bring back our "stranded" expats - if only in the name of COVID-19.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
What do deportations, Visas, refugees et al have to do with COVID-19?
Both @RTT_Rules and @Aron are making a very compelling case that we should be doing *less*, not more, to bring back our "stranded" expats - if only in the name of COVID-19.
djf01
Love to know how the two are linked?
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
^ Hey you, get off my cloud.
LOL!
ahh, you want to be special?
RTT_Rules
Laughing
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
We die earlier
We have higher incarceration rates
We have higher suicide rates
We have higher infant mortality

Read on  

https://australianstogether.org.au/discover/the-wound/indigenous-disadvantage-in-australia/
I don't need to read that link to see the problem, I've seen it in particular Walgett, but others including Moree, Ivanhoe, Wilcania etc are not much better. Go out for dinner at Trangie, by 8pm the place is a ghost down with heavy roller shutters that you'd find in the worst parts of Sydney, not typically a small country town of less than 3000.

Basically travel to a number of towns of NW NSW and parts of Qld such as Sth Rockhampton, its disgusting. In Walgett felt like I was in a war torn part of Africa, I called my mum who grew up in another NW NSW ghetto $hithole Moree, back in the 50's and 60's, Walgett was the only town they were not allowed to stay over night when touring playing basket ball.  

Went camping in Port Stewart, on the Cape in Qld. Town was 99% empty apart from feral kids running around. Ask the one guy who was still there at the camping ground where is everyone. "It Pension day, gone to Coen to get pi$$ed for a week, they will all be back after the weekend hung over and looking for a fight and to steal stuff, recommend you stay for 4 days then go".

So are we surprised

We die earlier
We have higher incarceration rates
We have higher suicide rates
We have higher infant mortality


Clearly 50 years of "white help" and billions of dollars handed over without question has not solved the problem.

Isn't it time the Aboriginal community stepped up to solve their own problem?
RTT_Rules
Get it right.

It has been 90 years of white help; the last massacre was in the 1930's.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
^ Sorry, my bad, it was in 1928.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Get it right.

It has been 90 years of white help; the last massacre was in the 1930's.
DirtyBallast
I was starting from a period roughly when Aboriginal's and TI's were at least entitled to a passport of their own country.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
1) We die earlier
2) We have higher incarceration rates
3) We have higher suicide rates
4) We have higher infant mortality

So I looked this up to compare with Canada, US and NZ. For Canada, average age of death was broken up by native group.  No agenda, just curious.

Short answers
1) Native populations vary between 4 and 10 years younger. 10 years was Inuit of Canada. best was Native Americans at 4 years (yes wow). Those living off reservations are much better and the rise in life expectancy has been strongly linked to moving away reservation living. Australia is on par with NZ. (This surprised me)

2) On par with Canada (3% of population making up 28-30% in jail. I didn't check US as they have other issues. NZ 15% of population making up 50% in jail. NZ has more people in jail per 100,000 than Australia, this would explain why.

3) NZ Maori 2 x, Native Canadian 3 x, Australia Aboriginal 2 x

4) This I didn't look up, but assume to be on par with NZ and Canada as almost everything else was.
For US health and life expectancy was better in states that took up Medicaid.

Of interest US style Reservations which I genuinely thought going into this was a good thing appears to be recipes for rape, domestic violence, child abuse, child sexual abuse, substance abuse, low life expectancy.....and a potential driver for people moving away into normal society.  

What's the answer? Clearly no one has it as while some numbers vary, the results are basically the same across the board.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
An unpleasant aspect of many Australians is their willingness to believe that they are somehow personally responsible for the good fortune of the countrysnd are therefore in a position to give lessons on morality to others. Never ones to hide their lantern under a bushel either. This boorishness has been on great display of late.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Many stereotypes happening here:


Apocalypse of the shallow.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Many stereotypes happening here:


Apocalypse of the shallow.
Carnot
Probably worth doing both a PCR and pregnancy test.
  wobert Chief Commissioner
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Tis a worry

https://www.theage.com.au/national/sick-for-the-long-haul-one-third-of-covid-19-patients-have-symptoms-for-eight-months-20210330-p57fbl.html#comments
wobert
Although there are reports of significant improvement in health for such people after being vaccinated:
https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-vaccinations-offer-hope-to-long-covid-19-haulers-hit-with-mystery-symptoms/f8f4bd5b-d148-4457-848e-209703583fbe

As for Qld, only 2 new cases today (linked to existing clusters), so that's a good development and will likely see them set free for the Easter Weekend.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
An unpleasant aspect of many Australians is their willingness to believe that they are somehow personally responsible for the good fortune of the countrysnd are therefore in a position to give lessons on morality to others. Never ones to hide their lantern under a bushel either. This boorishness has been on great display of late.
billybaxter
Yeah but you think communism is a good idea.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Tis a worry

https://www.theage.com.au/national/sick-for-the-long-haul-one-third-of-covid-19-patients-have-symptoms-for-eight-months-20210330-p57fbl.html#comments
wobert
Yep, we have some at work, some of which had to resign.

But the anti-vax's and those who claim not be anti vax but anti CV vax who repeatedly make BS claims like 99.8% recover bla bla bla bla BS.

Which is why Australia and most if not all Western countries will not achieve herd immunity via vaccination because of opposition by those who think a forum of like thinking people is smarter than their local Dr or indeed the entire medical community.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Tis a worry

https://www.theage.com.au/national/sick-for-the-long-haul-one-third-of-covid-19-patients-have-symptoms-for-eight-months-20210330-p57fbl.html#comments
Yep, we have some at work, some of which had to resign.

But the anti-vax's and those who claim not be anti vax but anti CV vax who repeatedly make BS claims like 99.8% recover bla bla bla bla BS.

Which is why Australia and most if not all Western countries will not achieve herd immunity via vaccination because of opposition by those who think a forum of like thinking people is smarter than their local Dr or indeed the entire medical community.
RTT_Rules
These same people make the outrageous claim did all the people die "with covid" or "of covid", well that's a simple one with all due respect, since we now know that Coronavirus causes all sorts of very serious, and indeed sometimes life threatening illness, all the people died OF coronavirus.
  ANR Chief Commissioner

Looks as if there is a blame game going on with the roll-out of covax between the feds and the states. The feds are blaming the off target results on the states.

Anything on this scale requires careful planning and coordination.

There is a federal election looming. Slomo is getting a bit anxious. He hasn't had the easiest time of late becoming Co-PM. Lucky for him Marise is not a holder of a lower house seat.

This roll-out is becoming highly politicised.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
Looks as if there is a blame game going on with the roll-out of covax between the feds and the states. The feds are blaming the off target results on the states.

Anything on this scale requires careful planning and coordination.

There is a federal election looming. Slomo is getting a bit anxious. He hasn't had the easiest time of late becoming Co-PM. Lucky for him Marise is not a holder of a lower house seat.

This roll-out is becoming highly politicised.
ANR
Did the federal government intentionally pick a fight with the states over the vaccine rollout, in order to deflect attention away from their inability to effectively deal with the ongoing Canberra Bubble culture crisis?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
No problem getting vaccination for the YMs and myself (not many advantages in being old) Smile.
Both of us got our first injection last Saturday 27/3. Only took 30 odd minutes including 15 minutes afterwards in case of any reaction. No reaction whatsoever so far to 31/3. AstraZeneca I assume but beggars cannot be choosers I suppose.
Our second shot is mid-June.
Daughter and her husband in Chicago got second Moderna shot a week or two ago. First shot was OK but second aches, pains and tiredness for days.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

I've been a bit concerned as I've had anaphylaxis several times (antibiotics) I've also had in 2014 HIT Heparin‐induced thrombocytopenia, danaparoid for about 6 weeks, it was lovely inthe Austin. Not
My heart specialist is telling me probably don't have AV, ive also seen several gp's and they say fine no problems you'll be right, until I'm not is my worry, each time I called the hospital have been given the run around, I've called twice

I'm finding it hard to find out any information.... As you would expect.
I'm not liking my situation at all. Any suggestions / information greatly appreciated
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
All the best Doyle, but a humoungous donation to your local LNP branch could help.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Looks as if there is a blame game going on with the roll-out of covax between the feds and the states. The feds are blaming the off target results on the states.

Anything on this scale requires careful planning and coordination.

There is a federal election looming. Slomo is getting a bit anxious. He hasn't had the easiest time of late becoming Co-PM. Lucky for him Marise is not a holder of a lower house seat.

This roll-out is becoming highly politicised.
Did the federal government intentionally pick a fight with the states over the vaccine rollout, in order to deflect attention away from their inability to effectively deal with the ongoing Canberra Bubble culture crisis?
DirtyBallast
No fight picking,

Did the Fed's procure and distribute to the states, who are the ones actually run the countries heath system?

If the answer is yes, case closed. States (maybe not all) F'ed up!
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

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This roll-out is becoming highly politicised.
Did the federal government intentionally pick a fight with the states over the vaccine rollout, in order to deflect attention away from their inability to effectively deal with the ongoing Canberra Bubble culture crisis?
No fight picking,

Did the Fed's procure and distribute to the states, who are the ones actually run the countries heath system?

If the answer is yes, case closed. States (maybe not all) F'ed up!
RTT_Rules

Rubbish.  

Sums it up pretty well here:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-01/coronavirus-vaccine-rollout-information-transparency/100042460

But that is the ABC and thus blocked by your gated community's fire wall, try listing to this Labor State Health Minister speaking on their left wing propaganda channel (skip to 6:00 ish):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFNug3xolsc
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Take up the argument with the leadership of the European Union responsible for the decision (and to be fair, I think maybe rightfully so) to withhold European made vaccinations for use by European citizens.

In further news, our 84 year old nanna in Poland had her first Pfizer dose yesterday, and she has been in perfect health since, she reckoned she barely noticed getting it.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

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I'm finding it hard to find out any information.... As you would expect.
I'm not liking my situation at all. Any suggestions / information greatly appreciated
doyle
Perhaps speak to your specialist or regular GP about how imperative it is that you have the vaccination. Depending on your risk of being exposed to Covid, it may be better to delay vaccination to a later date when things become clearer.

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