The corona virus COVID-19

 
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Spin Speak lives:-
Lt. Gen. Frewin, newly appointed head of COVID Vaccine Rollout: " . . . we are in a resource constrained environment."
Translation? . . . we haven't got enough.

Supplementary question; why an army officer? Isn't there any capable person in the Commonwealth Department of Health?

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  7334 Chief Commissioner

Location: In the workshop wondering why I started 7334 in the first place
Spin Speak lives:-
Lt. Gen. Frewin, newly appointed head of COVID Vaccine Rollout: " . . . we are in a resource constrained environment."
Translation? . . . we haven't got enough.

Supplementary question; why an army officer? Isn't there any capable person in the Commonwealth Department of Health?
Valvegear
Obviously not.

What happened to Commodore whatshisname who was in charge?
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Spin Speak lives:-
Lt. Gen. Frewin, newly appointed head of COVID Vaccine Rollout: " . . . we are in a resource constrained environment."
Translation? . . . we haven't got enough.

Supplementary question; why an army officer? Isn't there any capable person in the Commonwealth Department of Health?
Valvegear
Simple answer, looks impressive and someone to pin the blame on when it goes tits up.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

What do you mean 'if'
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
Vaccine rollout is a shambles partly because constitutionally both the states and feds have a role to play here. The states are responsible for public health which includes preventitive healthcare like vaccinating the population. The feds are responsible for primary health which includes GP clinics where vaccines are rolled out.
  ANR Chief Commissioner

Reminds me of the NBN roll-out. You think they would have learned.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Reminds me of the NBN roll-out. You think they would have learned.
"ANR"
I certainly don't think they'd have learned. I would have hoped that they had, but I sure as hell wouldn't expect it. Most of them couldn't learn a two-times table.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

NSW outbreak seems to be spinning out of control....
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

NSW is on the verge of a major winter outbreak. They are making the mistake that Victoria made last year by expecting people to "change their behavior."
  Carnot Minister for Railways

NSW is on the verge of a major winter outbreak. They are making the mistake that Victoria made last year by expecting people to "change their behavior."
Mr. Lane
As a positive, most of the 13 were already isolating.

But yes, the time of the year and general slackness in NSW could easily see Sydney and/or NSW cutoff from the rest of the nation like Vic was in July - Sept 2020...
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

NSW is on the verge of a major winter outbreak. They are making the mistake that Victoria made last year by expecting people to "change their behavior."
As a positive, most of the 13 were already isolating.

But yes, the time of the year and general slackness in NSW could easily see Sydney and/or NSW cutoff from the rest of the nation like Vic was in July - Sept 2020...
Carnot

In my view -  there have been two specific errors in NSW so far:

1) Should have had a precautionary lockdown when the 1st case was dicovered.  IMHO this should be standard practice - top get contact tracing ahead of it.  (Same should have occurred in Melb, then the mystery link to Wollert Man might have been found, or at least stopped from speading it).  Ha that happened in NSW, we wouldn't have had someone wandering around Westfield infecting people.

2) After the Westfield event was identified, AT LEAST everyone who'd been there put in isolation (ie all the staff, and hence al lthe businesses shut for 2 weeks).  There was clear evidence of fleeting transmission to at least 3 other people, and there are staff there who've had it, and continued working.  We only know of the people who've subsequently become symptomatic for every 3 who are symptomatic there are 2 who are just as infected and just as infectious who are not symptomatic.

Pretty much all of the transmission events that occurred since the Westfield event was discovered could have been prevented. Yet there has been a seeding event in the Illawarra, where someone infected people in an Obstetritcian's waiting room, and someone travel to Wellington NZ while infectious.  

NSW has *almost* got to the sort of restrictions required to contain it - were they implemented last week.

NSW is now making the mistake of attempting a "proportionate" response, which means creeping into an ever lengthening lockdown.  If people aren't whinging about it (ie it actually changes people's behaviour before the risk to them becomes tangible), then it's too slow.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
NSW is on the verge of a major winter outbreak. They are making the mistake that Victoria made last year by expecting people to "change their behavior."
As a positive, most of the 13 were already isolating.

But yes, the time of the year and general slackness in NSW could easily see Sydney and/or NSW cutoff from the rest of the nation like Vic was in July - Sept 2020...
Carnot

Another 14 cases today.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Sydney now going into week lockdown
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Of those cases today ten of them were at a birthday party, with one two-year old subsequently attending a day-care.

About time they locked down but it should have happened when the first instances of community transmission were identified to allow the tracers to get in front.

And now watch people fleeing from the locked down areas to the country like half of Melbourne did...
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Reminds me of the NBN roll-out. You think they would have learned.
I certainly don't think they'd have learned. I would have hoped that they had, but I sure as hell wouldn't expect it. Most of them couldn't learn a two-times table.
Valvegear
They intentionally screwed up the proper NBN rollout, so screwing up the vaccines is on brand sadly.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Sydney now going into week lockdown
bevans
Well, semi lockdown, not a full lockdown.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I must admit I had a laugh about the NSW restriction banning drinking while standing up at indoor venues, but it's OK to do so while seated....

Meanwhile, Mark "CCP" McGowan does the predictable:
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I must admit I had a laugh about the NSW restriction banning drinking while standing up at indoor venues, but it's OK to do so while seated....

Meanwhile, Mark "CCP" McGowan does the predictable:
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

Sydney now going into week lockdown
Well, semi lockdown, not a full lockdown.
lsrailfan
I don't think the word lockdown really even applies...
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Gladys Berejiklianhas announced new restrictions to combat the growing spread of Covid-19 cases as NSW recorded 14 cases today. The outbreak in Sydney has triggered Victoria and Queensland to update their travel advice for NSW residents. WA and SA have closed their borders to the eastern state.

New Zealand has suspended its travel bubble with NSW as the state’s growing Covid-19 outbreak closes an eastern suburbs school and residents overwhelm testing clinics.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

There is no way the term lockdown will be used in NSW. There'll be an army of spin doctors working on an alternative right now.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
There is no way the term lockdown will be used in NSW. There'll be an army of spin doctors working on an alternative right now.
kitchgp

South Australia’s border with most of NSW slammed shut on Wednesday afternoon over mounting concerns about Sydney’s fast spreading Delta Covid-19 strain cluster.

In a snap decision that threw school holiday plans into chaos, all non-essential NSW travel is banned, in response to what local authorities described as a “very real and present danger”.

Approved travellers can transit through Sydney as can visitors from ACT if driving and provided they don’t stop their vehicle.
There is a 100km border exemption corridor into NSW. People living in far western NSW areas including Wentworth and Broken Hill are exempt, under orders of Police Commissioner
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
There is no way the term lockdown will be used in NSW. There'll be an army of spin doctors working on an alternative right now.
kitchgp
No they won't, if a lockdown happens then it will happen, at the moment we are doing everything we can to avoid that.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I must admit I had a laugh about the NSW restriction banning drinking while standing up at indoor venues, but it's OK to do so while seated....
"Carnot"
Then you evidently don't know the reasoning behind the rule.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

I must admit I had a laugh about the NSW restriction banning drinking while standing up at indoor venues, but it's OK to do so while seated....
Then you evidently don't know the reasoning behind the rule.
Valvegear
That's right.  Everyone else in Australia knows people from NSW can't handle their liquor, but we still can't admit it.

Back on topic (sort of): QLD border to NSW remains open to allow State of Origin.  I'm surprised, as the rules normal change  if NSW ever wins 1 in a row.  /s

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