The corona virus COVID-19

 
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
That's right.  Everyone else in Australia knows people from NSW can't handle their liquor, but we still can't admit it.
"djf01"
Nice one! . . . but not the right answer.

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  Carnot Minister for Railways

Interesting report out of the UK. Cases are rising but 10 times the number are dying of the flu or pneumonia:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/23/nhs-alarm-rise-number-uk-covid-patients-ventilators
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Meanwhile at NSW State Parliament:
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

There is no way the term lockdown will be used in NSW. There'll be an army of spin doctors working on an alternative right now.
kitchgp
Another three word slogan?
Involuntary travel restrictions.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Another three word slogan?
Involuntary travel restrictions.
"michaelgm"


Or, proximity awareness parameters?
  doyle Chief Commissioner

AZ to be phased out, smaller cohort requires it
Front of the queue we were, with only 2 vaccines geezzz,
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
11 New local community transmission cases in Sydney today, at this stage, there will be no lockdowns, it would appear as though NSW Health has dropped the ball on this one, the Limo driver that spread all this was not vaccinated, nor was he wearing a mask whilst driving, something which he should of been compelled to do by NSW Health.
  7334 Chief Commissioner

Location: In the workshop wondering why I started 7334 in the first place
Another three word slogan?
Involuntary travel restrictions.


Or, proximity awareness parameters?
Valvegear
How about "an initiative targeting a significant reduction in the consumption of energy for mobility purposes".

That takes the whole focus away from Covid and makes it seem somehow noble.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Just hearing on ABC News Sydney cluster had (again) seeded COVID in Melbourne.  A positive case flew back from Sydney after visiting a "green zone".
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Another three word slogan?
Involuntary travel restrictions.


Or, proximity awareness parameters?
How about "an initiative targeting a significant reduction in the consumption of energy for mobility purposes".

That takes the whole focus away from Covid and makes it seem somehow noble.
7334
Excellent but is in excess of the three word slogan that appeals to LNP voters.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Schools and flying are safe, as I understand this covid bug thingy
And 300 people but not 301 people are also safe at venues and NSW is the Gold standard
  Carnot Minister for Railways

One of the Hoxton Park party cluster attendees is an Oakleigh resident who went back home to Vic on Sunday and has since tested +ve.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

One of the Hoxton Park party cluster attendees is an Oakleigh resident who went back home to Vic on Sunday and has since tested +ve.
Carnot

It's "linked", so no-one has to worry.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

Enhanced Family Socialising
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Schools and flying are safe, as I understand this covid bug thingy
And 300 people but not 301 people are also safe at venues and NSW is the Gold standard
doyle
As are 75,000 at the AFL but not 50 (or whatever today's figure is) at a funeral.

Money is everything.
  kitchgp Chief Commissioner

One of the Hoxton Park party cluster attendees is an Oakleigh resident who went back home to Vic on Sunday and has since tested +ve.
Carnot
It's "linked", so no-one has to worry.
djf01

Hopefully he hasn't dined at the Smile Buffalo Thai restaurant at Black Rock.
  Carnot Minister for Railways
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
I wonder what the most recent Sydney covid outbreak is going to mean for the Big Brother live finale, scheduled for Tuesday June 29 with a live audience of 300 fans plus housemates and their families, at a studio located in the eastern suburbs?
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
I wonder what the most recent Sydney covid outbreak is going to mean for the Big Brother live finale, scheduled for Tuesday June 29 with a live audience of 300 fans plus housemates and their families, at a studio located in the eastern suburbs?
Gayspie

Hopefully a complete canning of the show
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I suggest that the finale of Big Brother is in the same category as AFL or NRL crowds - i.e. there are far more important considerations to worry about.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
NSW records another 22 cases locally.  Is it time to consider a lockdown?
  route14 Chief Commissioner

A friend in Sydney told me that they'll enter a lockdown from tonight.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

NSW records another 22 cases locally.  Is it time to consider a lockdown?
bevans

"We don't do things that way in NSW"

The time to have a lockdown was on the 15th, when the index case was discovered - in the community and infectious for 5 days. All the subsequent super-spreading events would have been prevented, as would seeding events in New Zealand, Illawarra, Bourke, Brooklyn and of course, Melbourne.  

Assuming they identified the Westfield BJ Super-spreading event and those exposed were found on the Fri (as they were) and isolated (as they wern't, only some regarded as casual contacts), the outbreak would have ended there, the lockdown would have ended on Mon 21.

Had they locked down on Fri 15 when the BJ superspreading event was discovered - and acknowledged the bleeding obvious: you can't seriously contact trace everyone who's been to a westfield - most of the bases earlier this week would still have occurred, but we'd be in a position to credibly claim the outbreak is contained today, and lockdown could be released Next Monday 27.

Now ... who knows.  We (NSW) are where Victoria was during the second wave when they attempted to ring-fence hot spot suburbs, ~20 cases a day.  It might work in NSW where it failed in Victoria, because we're special.   It's a very similar policy response: too sacred to make an unpoipular call, just doing the imimum that most agree to in the hope rather than expectation it's enough. I think we are creaping into a full state wide lockdown, probably for 2 or 3 weeks.  The situtation in Sydney is worse than in Melbourne at the start of your/their most recent 2 week lockdown.  If we get to 100 cases a day, then it'll be months rather than weeks.  But that's where we are heading.

If 1 case were the threshold, NSW would have already had 3 or 4 precautionary lockdowns this year.  But a precautionary lockdown of 2 (working) days would have stopped this outbreak.  The other 2 or 3 precautionary lockdowns would have been a waste of time.

If the identification of an untraceable super-spreading event were the threshold, NSW would be in lockdown for 1 week (this week) and 2 weekends.

If interstate borders closed on either of these thresholds, Melbourne would not be looking at having to contain it's current outbreak.

Conclusions:
1) Precautionary lockdowns work - most are unnecessary, but even when they work they *seem* unnecessary.

2) We've had more than a year of rolling lockdowns, yet every time there is mass confusion as politicians wing it on how to adjust the rules to make them less overbearing.  Everyone should be prepared, and already know what to do in the event of a snap lockdown.  That would greatly reduce the cost and inconvenience of them, meaning they could be shorter (ie days rather than weeks) AND more effective, AND politicians wouldn't be sh*tting themselves about calling them.  It'd be a wet long weekend FFS.  Maybe sacrifice a public holiday later in the year to "pay" for it.  It's not that hard.

3) Interstate borders:

I think there is a strong case to restrict interstate borders to *any* jurisdiction that has a single (uncontained community) case.  Not full HQ, but quarantine for 3 days, in HQ of they have nothing else available.

That would have stopped the Melb/Sandringham dry cleaner going to the party in Wetheril Park, or at least kept at home until he discovered he was a close contact.

Other states (VIC in this case) clearly needed to be faster closing/restricting their borders to NSW.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
The full lockdown conditions cover four Local Government Areas.
People who live and work in Woollahra, Waverley, Randwick and the City of Sydney are now subject to a stay-at-home order.
That will be in place for a week, until next Friday.
Anyone who has been working in the four locked-down local government areas for the past two weeks is now subject to a stay-at-home order.
Consequently, workers in the CBD are, as of now, unable to leave the home without good reason.

Interesting also that Gladys is strenuously avoiding the use of the word "lockdown"; even a partial one.
  ANR Chief Commissioner

Riddle me this: When is a lock down not a lock down?

When your locks have left a double bay hair salon.

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