The corona virus COVID-19

 
  Mr. Lane Chief Commissioner

...because Gladys treated the pandemic as nothing more than bat sniffles until it was too late.
That's okay, you and I will never have to pay it all back. People who haven't been born yet will be.

...and they won't know any different. It's not like it will be headline news in the 2055 federal budget.

M.
Simple: You don't care because you'll be dead.

Until Howard paid off the Commonwealth debt in its entirety we were still paying off debts that were many decades old and draining the government coffers with interest that had to be paid. You might think it's irrelevant and doesn't affect you but that money is real, it accrues interest and it will prevent the construction of infrastructure and the running of hospitals and the military. The more debt, the less money for the provision of services.

It's not this generation's issue: It's being hand-balled neatly to the next generation to battle with, to cut services and expenditure and raise taxes to try and service. And people like you don't give a damn because you won't be around.

A clear cut case of "I'm alright Jack". Right?
don_dunstan
Monetarism is dead. Since 2008 we are living in the age of Modern Monetary Theory: Debt doesn't matter so long as inflation remains low. Central banks will just keep injecting money into government coffers as long as inflation remains low.

How it will all turn out is another thing...

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  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
...because Gladys treated the pandemic as nothing more than bat sniffles until it was too late.
That's okay, you and I will never have to pay it all back. People who haven't been born yet will be.

...and they won't know any different. It's not like it will be headline news in the 2055 federal budget.

M.
Simple: You don't care because you'll be dead.

Until Howard paid off the Commonwealth debt in its entirety we were still paying off debts that were many decades old and draining the government coffers with interest that had to be paid. You might think it's irrelevant and doesn't affect you but that money is real, it accrues interest and it will prevent the construction of infrastructure and the running of hospitals and the military. The more debt, the less money for the provision of services.

It's not this generation's issue: It's being hand-balled neatly to the next generation to battle with, to cut services and expenditure and raise taxes to try and service. And people like you don't give a damn because you won't be around.

A clear cut case of "I'm alright Jack". Right?
Monetarism is dead. Since 2008 we are living in the age of Modern Monetary Theory: Debt doesn't matter so long as inflation remains low. Central banks will just keep injecting money into government coffers as long as inflation remains low.

How it will all turn out is another thing...
Mr. Lane
Inflation kicked up a notch to four percent this week and nobody - NOBODY - in the mainstream media reported on it.

Modern Monetary Theory is just a crock of sh*t - it relies on super-low interest rates as you were saying, but the problem is that collectively we've been pumping so much borrowed money into the global (and domestic) economies that inflation is inevitable.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Missed this when it came out yesterday: NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro admits that the NSW government has no idea what it's doing. From News.com.au;

John Barilaro has confessed authorities don’t know “what’s working and what’s not working” in terms of the strict lockdown measures in place across Sydney - infuriating breakfast host Karl Stefanovic.

“One of the things we keep saying is, it’s difficult to quantify what’s working and what’s not working,” he said on Thursday morning.

“And the reality is, even though we continue to see a rise in numbers, those numbers aren’t accelerating into hundreds and hundreds.

“In one way the restrictions are working but, of course, more needs to be done and that’s why yesterday there were a number of changes in relation to being able to move out of your local government area.”

Mr Stefanovic appeared outraged by the bombshell admission.

“Sorry to put this to you, but I think you just said you don't know what’s working and what isn’t. Is that what you said?” Stefanovic asked.

“Yeah, look, there’s no playbook, Karl. There is no rule book,” the Deputy Premier responded before claiming reducing mobility is the key to success.

So they have no idea what they're doing - reassuring to know.
don_dunstan
Neither does Premier Marshmellow in SA.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Heaps of younger people in ICU Units in NSW, many in their early 20's and 30's, just underscoring how serious this Delta Strain is.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Well they don't need to worry about debt
  SAR520SMBH Train Controller

Missed this when it came out yesterday: NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro admits that the NSW government has no idea what it's doing. From News.com.au;

John Barilaro has confessed authorities don’t know “what’s working and what’s not working” in terms of the strict lockdown measures in place across Sydney - infuriating breakfast host Karl Stefanovic.

“One of the things we keep saying is, it’s difficult to quantify what’s working and what’s not working,” he said on Thursday morning.

“And the reality is, even though we continue to see a rise in numbers, those numbers aren’t accelerating into hundreds and hundreds.

“In one way the restrictions are working but, of course, more needs to be done and that’s why yesterday there were a number of changes in relation to being able to move out of your local government area.”

Mr Stefanovic appeared outraged by the bombshell admission.

“Sorry to put this to you, but I think you just said you don't know what’s working and what isn’t. Is that what you said?” Stefanovic asked.

“Yeah, look, there’s no playbook, Karl. There is no rule book,” the Deputy Premier responded before claiming reducing mobility is the key to success.

So they have no idea what they're doing - reassuring to know.
Neither does Premier Marshmellow in SA.
lsrailfan
What are you on about??

A 7 day hard lockdown in SA after numbers rose a bit and we're now out of lockdown with 0 cases for the last 2 or 3 days.

NSW have stuffed up massively for the second time and at this point in time, they're completely clueless when it comes to trying to control this thing.
Your beloved NSW is currently the laughing stock of the nation!!
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Missed this when it came out yesterday: NSW Deputy Premier John Barilaro admits that the NSW government has no idea what it's doing. From News.com.au;

John Barilaro has confessed authorities don’t know “what’s working and what’s not working” in terms of the strict lockdown measures in place across Sydney - infuriating breakfast host Karl Stefanovic.

“One of the things we keep saying is, it’s difficult to quantify what’s working and what’s not working,” he said on Thursday morning.

“And the reality is, even though we continue to see a rise in numbers, those numbers aren’t accelerating into hundreds and hundreds.

“In one way the restrictions are working but, of course, more needs to be done and that’s why yesterday there were a number of changes in relation to being able to move out of your local government area.”

Mr Stefanovic appeared outraged by the bombshell admission.

“Sorry to put this to you, but I think you just said you don't know what’s working and what isn’t. Is that what you said?” Stefanovic asked.

“Yeah, look, there’s no playbook, Karl. There is no rule book,” the Deputy Premier responded before claiming reducing mobility is the key to success.

So they have no idea what they're doing - reassuring to know.
Neither does Premier Marshmellow in SA.
What are you on about??

A 7 day hard lockdown in SA after numbers rose a bit and we're now out of lockdown with 0 cases for the last 2 or 3 days.

NSW have stuffed up massively for the second time and at this point in time, they're completely clueless when it comes to trying to control this thing.
Your beloved NSW is currently the laughing stock of the nation!!
SAR520SMBH
That's because Glady's didn't lockdown soon enough, so, here is a message to all of you, lockdown's work!! I fully agree that she should of locked down way earlier!
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Heaps of younger people in ICU Units in NSW, many in their early 20's and 30's, just underscoring how serious this Delta Strain is.
lsrailfan
That 38-year old victim (Adriana Takana) who died with COVID19 in Sydney was originally admitted to hospital with blood clots to both legs and her cousin wants to know whether or not she had a vaccine immediately prior to admission because apparently nobody in authority will say. Her brother says that she could not have had a vaccine because she was 'too young' - nobody in NSW is supposed to have Pfizer if they're under 40 - but its possible she could have had Astra Zenica.

Also not known is whether or not she contracted COVID while in hospital because she was there ostensibly for that surgical procedure, not because she had COVID19. Also be interesting to know what the cause of death actually was as there's a big difference between dying WITH COVID19 as opposed to FROM COVID19.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
...because Gladys treated the pandemic as nothing more than bat sniffles until it was too late.
That's okay, you and I will never have to pay it all back. People who haven't been born yet will be.

...and they won't know any different. It's not like it will be headline news in the 2055 federal budget.

M.
Simple: You don't care because you'll be dead.

A clear cut case of "I'm alright Jack". Right?
don_dunstan

I'm living to 100, but you'll be long gone and the ground where you'll be buried will become so inundated due to your bile and acid...it's got to go somewhere... it will in all likelihood be declared a contaminated site.

M.
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat Line
...because Gladys treated the pandemic as nothing more than bat sniffles until it was too late.
That's okay, you and I will never have to pay it all back. People who haven't been born yet will be.

...and they won't know any different. It's not like it will be headline news in the 2055 federal budget.

M.
Simple: You don't care because you'll be dead.

A clear cut case of "I'm alright Jack". Right?

I'm living to 100, but you'll be long gone and the ground where you'll be buried will become so inundated due to your bile and acid...it's got to go somewhere... it will in all likelihood be declared a contaminated site.

M.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Heaps of younger people in ICU Units in NSW, many in their early 20's and 30's, just underscoring how serious this Delta Strain is.
That 38-year old victim (Adriana Takana) who died with COVID19 in Sydney was originally admitted to hospital with blood clots to both legs and her cousin wants to know whether or not she had a vaccine immediately prior to admission because apparently nobody in authority will say. Her brother says that she could not have had a vaccine because she was 'too young' - nobody in NSW is supposed to have Pfizer if they're under 40 - but its possible she could have had Astra Zenica.

Also not known is whether or not she contracted COVID while in hospital because she was there ostensibly for that surgical procedure, not because she had COVID19. Also be interesting to know what the cause of death actually was as there's a big difference between dying WITH COVID19 as opposed to FROM COVID19.
don_dunstan
No difference at all to dying with or of Covid- it's exactly the same thing.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Heaps of younger people in ICU Units in NSW, many in their early 20's and 30's, just underscoring how serious this Delta Strain is.
That 38-year old victim (Adriana Takana) who died with COVID19 in Sydney was originally admitted to hospital with blood clots to both legs and her cousin wants to know whether or not she had a vaccine immediately prior to admission because apparently nobody in authority will say. Her brother says that she could not have had a vaccine because she was 'too young' - nobody in NSW is supposed to have Pfizer if they're under 40 - but its possible she could have had Astra Zenica.

Also not known is whether or not she contracted COVID while in hospital because she was there ostensibly for that surgical procedure, not because she had COVID19. Also be interesting to know what the cause of death actually was as there's a big difference between dying WITH COVID19 as opposed to FROM COVID19.
No difference at all to dying with or of Covid- it's exactly the same thing.
lsrailfan
Actually there's a world of difference because dying with COVID is treated the same as dying FROM COVID in most cases - for the death rates to be properly scientific, COVID should be established as the actual cause of death not an incidental factor.

And did you know that despite the panic in NSW about young people in hospitals only 6 of the 929 deaths from COVID in this country were people under fifty? Again - the young are making nearly all the sacrifices for the old. You people on this board might not want to hear it but that's the simple truth.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Heaps of younger people in ICU Units in NSW, many in their early 20's and 30's, just underscoring how serious this Delta Strain is.
That 38-year old victim (Adriana Takana) who died with COVID19 in Sydney was originally admitted to hospital with blood clots to both legs and her cousin wants to know whether or not she had a vaccine immediately prior to admission because apparently nobody in authority will say. Her brother says that she could not have had a vaccine because she was 'too young' - nobody in NSW is supposed to have Pfizer if they're under 40 - but its possible she could have had Astra Zenica.

Also not known is whether or not she contracted COVID while in hospital because she was there ostensibly for that surgical procedure, not because she had COVID19. Also be interesting to know what the cause of death actually was as there's a big difference between dying WITH COVID19 as opposed to FROM COVID19.
No difference at all to dying with or of Covid- it's exactly the same thing.
Actually there's a world of difference because dying with COVID is treated the same as dying FROM COVID in most cases - for the death rates to be properly scientific, COVID should be established as the actual cause of death not an incidental factor.

And did you know that despite the panic in NSW about young people in hospitals only 6 of the 929 deaths from COVID in this country were people under fifty? Again - the young are making nearly all the sacrifices for the old. You people on this board might not want to hear it but that's the simple truth.
don_dunstan
Spin it any way you choose, and you will but, it ain’t bat sniffles.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
...because Gladys treated the pandemic as nothing more than bat sniffles until it was too late.
That's okay, you and I will never have to pay it all back. People who haven't been born yet will be.

...and they won't know any different. It's not like it will be headline news in the 2055 federal budget.

M.
Simple: You don't care because you'll be dead.

A clear cut case of "I'm alright Jack". Right?

I'm living to 100, but you'll be long gone and the ground where you'll be buried will become so inundated due to your bile and acid...it's got to go somewhere... it will in all likelihood be declared a contaminated site.

M.
The Vinelander
So if you're living to a hundred you'll have all the more interest in making the nation that supports you into your old age viable and stable financially. In fact it makes your statements about no price being too great to contain this thing even more ridiculous because more than ever you need the Commonwealth to be on a stable financial footing going into the future - not bankrupt and unable to provide services.

And please don't tell me your super will look after you for the rest of your life - you're definitely going to need some kind of free government services in your old age, Mike, even the very wealthy do. They just might not exist any more is all.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Heaps of younger people in ICU Units in NSW, many in their early 20's and 30's, just underscoring how serious this Delta Strain is.
That 38-year old victim (Adriana Takana) who died with COVID19 in Sydney was originally admitted to hospital with blood clots to both legs and her cousin wants to know whether or not she had a vaccine immediately prior to admission because apparently nobody in authority will say. Her brother says that she could not have had a vaccine because she was 'too young' - nobody in NSW is supposed to have Pfizer if they're under 40 - but its possible she could have had Astra Zenica.

Also not known is whether or not she contracted COVID while in hospital because she was there ostensibly for that surgical procedure, not because she had COVID19. Also be interesting to know what the cause of death actually was as there's a big difference between dying WITH COVID19 as opposed to FROM COVID19.
No difference at all to dying with or of Covid- it's exactly the same thing.
lsrailfan
Just means COVID hasn’t got you yet.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Spin it any way you choose, and you will but, it ain’t bat sniffles.
michaelgm
6 out of 929 were under fifty.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
No difference at all to dying with or of Covid- it's exactly the same thing.
Just means COVID hasn’t got you yet.
michaelgm
LOL because it's lurking around every corner, especially in THIS country where we go into a blind panic and shut and entire city for two or three cases.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
No difference at all to dying with or of Covid- it's exactly the same thing.
Just means COVID hasn’t got you yet.
LOL because it's lurking around every corner, especially in THIS country where we go into a blind panic and shut and entire city for two or three cases.
don_dunstan
With the Delta strain you have to.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Heaps of younger people in ICU Units in NSW, many in their early 20's and 30's, just underscoring how serious this Delta Strain is.
That 38-year old victim (Adriana Takana) who died with COVID19 in Sydney was originally admitted to hospital with blood clots to both legs and her cousin wants to know whether or not she had a vaccine immediately prior to admission because apparently nobody in authority will say. Her brother says that she could not have had a vaccine because she was 'too young' - nobody in NSW is supposed to have Pfizer if they're under 40 - but its possible she could have had Astra Zenica.

Also not known is whether or not she contracted COVID while in hospital because she was there ostensibly for that surgical procedure, not because she had COVID19. Also be interesting to know what the cause of death actually was as there's a big difference between dying WITH COVID19 as opposed to FROM COVID19.
No difference at all to dying with or of Covid- it's exactly the same thing.
Actually there's a world of difference because dying with COVID is treated the same as dying FROM COVID in most cases - for the death rates to be properly scientific, COVID should be established as the actual cause of death not an incidental factor.

And did you know that despite the panic in NSW about young people in hospitals only 6 of the 929 deaths from COVID in this country were people under fifty? Again - the young are making nearly all the sacrifices for the old. You people on this board might not want to hear it but that's the simple truth.
don_dunstan
And how many young people are in hospital in NSW WITH Covid right now Don, that is a rubbish argument that the young are making the sacrifices, not buying it!
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Vaccines work. Including AZ:
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
A clinical trial done by Pfizer and the Center for Disease Control themselves showed no difference in death rates between vaccinated and non-vaccinated people. A former New York Times journalist (Alex Berenson) reported on this and had his account suspended by Twitter, despite the fact that the information is in the public domain - from ZeroHedge:



It's really difficult to have faith in the system if there's evidence of active censorship of any information that shows the weaknesses of the vaccines. Interesting to note that the Washington Post and the New York Times also reported studies by the CDC that showed vaccines had a lack of efficacy but were not cancelled by Twitter - I guess because they're too powerful for them to take on.

Anyway the Washington Post reported that the CDC found three-quarters of new infections in Massachusetts were with people fully vaccinated (apparently 'taken out of context' and too small-a sample size to be valid) and the New York Times quoted a CDC study in New York that found Delta variant was transmitted just as easily by vaccinated people as non-vaccinated people (apparently again out of context and a small sample size).

However only the sole journalist, Alex Berenson, was censored.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Also interesting to note that a CDC study done of five million cases of COVID19 in the United States found that the number one risk factor determining whether or not you'll survive the infection is obesity; and that 98% of all fatalities had at least two co-morbid factors (ie over 85 years of age, obesity, immune system issues or respiratory issues like emphysema).

So young, healthy people with a normal weight range generally don't die from COVID19.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Pfizer is now changing their advice about Ivermectin to say that it should be used as a both a prophylaxis and a treatment for COVID19 - Medical News:

Ivermectin, a drug used to treat parasites such as scabies in humans and intestinal helminths in cattle, was screened in 2020 for activity against COVID-19. Laboratory tests suggested a weak effect on SARS-CoV-2 virus in a test tube but did not seem feasible in humans as the doses needed would be large. However, small early trials suggested large effects on mortality, and this has led to some advocacy groups lobbying for its widespread introduction worldwide.

I've always thought that the reason Ivermectin was actively suppressed as a treatment for those with COVID19 was because it was 40 years old and well out of patent - and the drug companies wanted a brand new patented treatment to be used instead. But it's emerging now that it significantly helps those with both early and advanced COVID19 - which is excellent news.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Also interesting to note that a CDC study done of five million cases of COVID19 in the United States found that the number one risk factor determining whether or not you'll survive the infection is obesity; and that 98% of all fatalities had at least two co-morbid factors (ie over 85 years of age, obesity, immune system issues or respiratory issues like emphysema).

So young, healthy people with a normal weight range generally don't die from COVID19.
don_dunstan
It's not all about young people dying, it's about the health system becoming overburden and overrun, hospitals are being stretched to the brink in Sydney with Covid patients right now.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Let this sink in:

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