The corona virus COVID-19

 
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Interesting chart from a 29/7/2021 article in Forbes Magazine discussing the effectiveness of the various COVID19 vaccines and the time they take to degrade to fifty percent or less effectiveness against the disease:



Not all vaccines, it has become clear, are created equal. In May 2021, a study published in Nature Medicine made this claim based on the aggregated clinical trial results of seven different Covid-19 vaccines. Using predictive modeling techniques to plot the strength and duration of their immune protection over a theoretical timeline of 250 days, the study’s authors showed that some vaccines dropped to 50 percent efficacy much earlier than others. Leading the pack were Pfizer and Moderna’s mRNA vaccines, which performed at 95 percent efficacy initially and took a full 250 days to fall to 50 percent. The AstraZeneca vaccine rounded out the bottom with 62 percent initial efficacy and a half life of 48 days, though the Sinopharm vaccine fared even worse, having just 50 percent efficacy to begin with.

Did any poster here who has had AZ in the last few months know that it was only 50% effective after 48 days?

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  doyle Chief Commissioner

No didn't know 48 days that's pretty ship, anyway my heart specialist reckons people with health issues will need a top up every 6 - 8 months not yearly and my respiratory doctor was saying the same thing.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Sorry that's with the Pfizer shot
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Interesting chart from a 29/7/2021 article in Forbes Magazine discussing the effectiveness of the various COVID19 vaccines and the time they take to degrade to fifty percent or less effectiveness against the disease:



Not all vaccines, it has become clear, are created equal. In May 2021, a study published in Nature Medicine made this claim based on the aggregated clinical trial results of seven different Covid-19 vaccines. Using predictive modeling techniques to plot the strength and duration of their immune protection over a theoretical timeline of 250 days, the study’s authors showed that some vaccines dropped to 50 percent efficacy much earlier than others. Leading the pack were Pfizer and Moderna’s mRNA vaccines, which performed at 95 percent efficacy initially and took a full 250 days to fall to 50 percent. The AstraZeneca vaccine rounded out the bottom with 62 percent initial efficacy and a half life of 48 days, though the Sinopharm vaccine fared even worse, having just 50 percent efficacy to begin with.

Did any poster here who has had AZ in the last few months know that it was only 50% effective after 48 days?
don_dunstan
Interesting that you say that, I have found an article saying more or less the same thing, I have had A-Z myself, I suppose it could mean more regular shots with the A-Z?? - 3 doses, then 1 each year: why Pfizer, not AstraZeneca, is the best bet for the long haul (theconversation.com)
  Carnot Minister for Railways

I think this will be the case here too:

  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
I had my second Astra Zeneca shot yesterday afternoon. Today I have very mild discomfort in the shoulder where the needle went and otherwise, no side effects at all.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
No didn't know 48 days that's pretty ship, anyway my heart specialist reckons people with health issues will need a top up every 6 - 8 months not yearly and my respiratory doctor was saying the same thing.
doyle
Wow, I'm really glad that I only have one doctor - my GP - and not multiple doctors!

Israel's Health Minister is worried about the declining efficacy of the vaccines in the face of rising numbers of infections - Haaretz;

Dr. Sharon Alroy-Preis, Israel's director of public health services, said Sunday that evidence points to the waning immunity in the COVID-19 vaccine, saying her two biggest concerns with the delta variant relate to its level of infectiousness and the rising rate of vaccinated individuals testing positive.

"It's 50 percent more infectious than the previous variant, which was 50 percent more infectious than the original one," Alroy-Preis told CBS' Face the Nation, noting that a third of Israel's population has not been covered, particularly Israel's large population of non-vaccinated children.

She added that 50 percent of the current infections are vaccinated individuals. "Previously we thought that fully vaccinated individuals are protected, but we now see that vaccine effectiveness is roughly 40 percent." She noted that while effectiveness remains high for severe disease, Israel is seeing diminished protection, particularly for those who have been vaccinated longer.

She said the debate between whether the infections are related to the timing of the vaccine versus whether the vaccine provides robust protection is "the million-dollar question," though evidence over the past several weeks shows there is, in fact, waning immunity.

Children shouldn't be vaccinated, even the WHO's advice was that children under 12 shouldn't be vaccinated because the disease does not have an impact on them if if they catch it. The issue is that children can easily transmit the virus to older people - but giving children these drugs that are still under 'provisional approval' just for the sake of preventing transmission might turn out to be a really serious mistake.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Interesting chart from a 29/7/2021 article in Forbes Magazine discussing the effectiveness of the various COVID19 vaccines and the time they take to degrade to fifty percent or less effectiveness against the disease:



Not all vaccines, it has become clear, are created equal. In May 2021, a study published in Nature Medicine made this claim based on the aggregated clinical trial results of seven different Covid-19 vaccines. Using predictive modeling techniques to plot the strength and duration of their immune protection over a theoretical timeline of 250 days, the study’s authors showed that some vaccines dropped to 50 percent efficacy much earlier than others. Leading the pack were Pfizer and Moderna’s mRNA vaccines, which performed at 95 percent efficacy initially and took a full 250 days to fall to 50 percent. The AstraZeneca vaccine rounded out the bottom with 62 percent initial efficacy and a half life of 48 days, though the Sinopharm vaccine fared even worse, having just 50 percent efficacy to begin with.

Did any poster here who has had AZ in the last few months know that it was only 50% effective after 48 days?
Interesting that you say that, I have found an article saying more or less the same thing, I have had A-Z myself, I suppose it could mean more regular shots with the A-Z?? - 3 doses, then 1 each year: why Pfizer, not AstraZeneca, is the best bet for the long haul (theconversation.com)
lsrailfan
Based on the above figures we have been sold a lemon with AstraZeneca.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Interesting chart from a 29/7/2021 article in Forbes Magazine discussing the effectiveness of the various COVID19 vaccines and the time they take to degrade to fifty percent or less effectiveness against the disease:



Not all vaccines, it has become clear, are created equal. In May 2021, a study published in Nature Medicine made this claim based on the aggregated clinical trial results of seven different Covid-19 vaccines. Using predictive modeling techniques to plot the strength and duration of their immune protection over a theoretical timeline of 250 days, the study’s authors showed that some vaccines dropped to 50 percent efficacy much earlier than others. Leading the pack were Pfizer and Moderna’s mRNA vaccines, which performed at 95 percent efficacy initially and took a full 250 days to fall to 50 percent. The AstraZeneca vaccine rounded out the bottom with 62 percent initial efficacy and a half life of 48 days, though the Sinopharm vaccine fared even worse, having just 50 percent efficacy to begin with.

Did any poster here who has had AZ in the last few months know that it was only 50% effective after 48 days?
Interesting that you say that, I have found an article saying more or less the same thing, I have had A-Z myself, I suppose it could mean more regular shots with the A-Z?? - 3 doses, then 1 each year: why Pfizer, not AstraZeneca, is the best bet for the long haul (theconversation.com)
Based on the above figures we have been sold a lemon with AstraZeneca.
YM-Mundrabilla
Not really.  It's been very effective at preventing serious illness in the UK.  The numbers speak for themselves.

Meanwhile, a man in his 20s died in Sydney from Covid overnight.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
The state reported 233 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 on Tuesday, with 103 of the new cases linked to a known case or cluster, according to NSW Health
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
233 cases of local community transmission today in NSW. 47 infectious whilst in the community, a man in his 20's has passed away from the disease, this is being referred to the Coroner for further investigations.
  doyle Chief Commissioner
  allan Chief Commissioner

https://www.theage.com.au/national/price-of-living-with-covid-must-be-understood-before-its-paid-20210802-p58f1w.html

Why are we in a rush to "live with covid"
doyle
Who is "we"? I, for one, would like to know the "price of living without covid", and to have some choice.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Interesting chart from a 29/7/2021 article in Forbes Magazine discussing the effectiveness of the various COVID19 vaccines and the time they take to degrade to fifty percent or less effectiveness against the disease:



Not all vaccines, it has become clear, are created equal. In May 2021, a study published in Nature Medicine made this claim based on the aggregated clinical trial results of seven different Covid-19 vaccines. Using predictive modeling techniques to plot the strength and duration of their immune protection over a theoretical timeline of 250 days, the study’s authors showed that some vaccines dropped to 50 percent efficacy much earlier than others. Leading the pack were Pfizer and Moderna’s mRNA vaccines, which performed at 95 percent efficacy initially and took a full 250 days to fall to 50 percent. The AstraZeneca vaccine rounded out the bottom with 62 percent initial efficacy and a half life of 48 days, though the Sinopharm vaccine fared even worse, having just 50 percent efficacy to begin with.

Did any poster here who has had AZ in the last few months know that it was only 50% effective after 48 days?
Interesting that you say that, I have found an article saying more or less the same thing, I have had A-Z myself, I suppose it could mean more regular shots with the A-Z?? - 3 doses, then 1 each year: why Pfizer, not AstraZeneca, is the best bet for the long haul (theconversation.com)
Based on the above figures we have been sold a lemon with AstraZeneca.
Not really.  It's been very effective at preventing serious illness in the UK.  The numbers speak for themselves.

Meanwhile, a man in his 20s died in Sydney from Covid overnight.
Carnot
AZ half life of 48 days - I have used around three weeks of mine already.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

I don't want to live with covid.
  7334 Chief Commissioner

Location: In the workshop wondering why I started 7334 in the first place
AZ half life of 48 days - I have used around three weeks of mine already.
YM-Mundrabilla
I am there already!
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Interesting chart from a 29/7/2021 article in Forbes Magazine discussing the effectiveness of the various COVID19 vaccines and the time they take to degrade to fifty percent or less effectiveness against the disease:



Not all vaccines, it has become clear, are created equal. In May 2021, a study published in Nature Medicine made this claim based on the aggregated clinical trial results of seven different Covid-19 vaccines. Using predictive modeling techniques to plot the strength and duration of their immune protection over a theoretical timeline of 250 days, the study’s authors showed that some vaccines dropped to 50 percent efficacy much earlier than others. Leading the pack were Pfizer and Moderna’s mRNA vaccines, which performed at 95 percent efficacy initially and took a full 250 days to fall to 50 percent. The AstraZeneca vaccine rounded out the bottom with 62 percent initial efficacy and a half life of 48 days, though the Sinopharm vaccine fared even worse, having just 50 percent efficacy to begin with.

Did any poster here who has had AZ in the last few months know that it was only 50% effective after 48 days?
Interesting that you say that, I have found an article saying more or less the same thing, I have had A-Z myself, I suppose it could mean more regular shots with the A-Z?? - 3 doses, then 1 each year: why Pfizer, not AstraZeneca, is the best bet for the long haul (theconversation.com)
Based on the above figures we have been sold a lemon with AstraZeneca.
YM-Mundrabilla
Being a glass half full kinda bloke, Scotty bought a lemon as opposed to us being sold one.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

233 cases of local community transmission today in NSW. 47 infectious whilst in the community, a man in his 20's has passed away from the disease, this is being referred to the Coroner for further investigations.
lsrailfan
Gladys may have lost the plot. Asked today about why certain retail have been listed as exposure sites and why they were even open.
Response, next question.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Stark difference from Dan's pressers and gladys pressers
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Stark difference from Dan's pressers and gladys pressers
doyle
Stood there every day and answered all, no matter how ridiculous questions.
  Heihachi_73 Chief Commissioner

Location: Terminating at Ringwood
233 cases of local community transmission today in NSW. 47 infectious whilst in the community, a man in his 20's has passed away from the disease, this is being referred to the Coroner for further investigations.
Gladys may have lost the plot. Asked today about why certain retail have been listed as exposure sites and why they were even open.
Response, next question.
michaelgm
Where's Egg Boy when you need him?
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Lightning strikes twice:
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Hearing tonight on the news, the powers that be think that the Aussie population can be at 80% vaccinated by year's end, (providing that Aussies come forward in droves), that will not happen sadly, I think it will be struggling to be at 70% first dose by year's end, (sitting at 40% now).
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
Hearing tonight on the news, the powers that be think that the Aussie population can be at 80% vaccinated by year's end, (providing that Aussies come forward in droves), that will not happen sadly, I think it will be struggling to be at 70% first dose by year's end, (sitting at 40% now).
lsrailfan
A couple of weeks ago a bloke at work asked me and the young fella I was working with if we're getting our shots. I replied that I've had my first AZ with no drama, and I've got a few weeks to go before my second jab. My colleague replied that since he is under 30, he is not eligible yet but intends to get it when he can.

The questioner then said, word for word, "I'n not going to get it, because they're still going to make me wear a mask anyway."

He was serious.

Yes, he is a RWNJ.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Hearing tonight on the news, the powers that be think that the Aussie population can be at 80% vaccinated by year's end, (providing that Aussies come forward in droves), that will not happen sadly, I think it will be struggling to be at 70% first dose by year's end, (sitting at 40% now).
A couple of weeks ago a bloke at work asked me and the young fella I was working with if we're getting our shots. I replied that I've had my first AZ with no drama, and I've got a few weeks to go before my second jab. My colleague replied that since he is under 30, he is not eligible yet but intends to get it when he can.

The questioner then said, word for word, "I'n not going to get it, because they're still going to make me wear a mask anyway."

He was serious.

Yes, he is a RWNJ.
DirtyBallast
You can't win with logic like that Rolling EyesRolling Eyes

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