The corona virus COVID-19

 
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
I don't know, this is to the construction workers of Melbourne, just do what your boss says and get the Jab!
The world would be a much better place if people just did as they were told, eh, Israilfan.

I think Dan has taken on the wrong people - capsicum spraying 74 year old ladies flat on the ground is one thing. The CFMEU membership is an entirely different proposition... those people are hard-core.

don_dunstan
I agree with you, the CFMEU are (mostly) a militant organization, they should be appalled at what they did today, as for that elderly woman that was shoved to the ground, I have not seen the footage, but I believe the police will be under investigation.

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  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
Meh. Just another typically violent protest staged by RWNJ's, whether they were actual construction workers or CFMMEU members or not. What a golden opportunity for them to sabotage the event.

Nothing to do with unionism. The percentage of people spewing venom and inflicting violence today would be similar whether the metric was union membership (the vast majority probably were union members), gender (the vast majority were men), race (the vast majority were white), hirsuitness (the vast majority had beards), personal graffiti (tattoos) etc. etc. Regardless, it is the same old story - people who think that their rights are more important than their responsibilities. AKA conservatives.

Union bashers need to ask themselves, how on earth did Setka come out of this looking genteel by comparison? Doesn't that raise suspicions? When he asked his audience if they wanted a shutdown and the mob replied in the affirmative, don't you think that is strange?

What we saw today was a cocktail consisting of infiltraters, dissidents and ice. As a consequence of this event, construction might very well be shut down for a while. Good one, RWNJ's. Rolling Eyes
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I agree with you, the CFMEU are (mostly) a militant organization, they should be appalled at what they did today, as for that elderly woman that was shoved to the ground, I have not seen the footage, but I believe the police will be under investigation.
lsrailfan
The disgusting sequence of events depicted on the video has already started to disappear from the internet but the fact is a 74 year old woman was pushed to the ground and capsicum sprayed directly in the face by Victoria Police on Saturday. Here are some stills from a Daily Mail UK report on it. I'm ashamed of this country, I hope the stood down CFMMEU members protest in force tomorrow in Melbourne to show their anger at what's going on.

  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
I agree with you, the CFMEU are (mostly) a militant organization, they should be appalled at what they did today, as for that elderly woman that was shoved to the ground, I have not seen the footage, but I believe the police will be under investigation.
The disgusting sequence of events depicted on the video has already started to disappear from the internet but the fact is a 74 year old woman was pushed to the ground and capsicum sprayed directly in the face by Victoria Police on Saturday. Here are some stills from a Daily Mail UK report on it. I'm ashamed of this country, I hope the stood down CFMMEU members protest in force tomorrow in Melbourne to show their anger at what's going on.

don_dunstan
Yep, a horrible thing that happened to that lovely lady - based on a cherry picked still photo. But nothing in comparison what happened to George Floyd.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
I don't know, this is to the construction workers of Melbourne, just do what your boss says and get the Jab!
The world would be a much better place if people just did as they were told, eh, Israilfan.

I think Dan has taken on the wrong people - capsicum spraying 74 year old ladies flat on the ground is one thing. The CFMEU membership is an entirely different proposition... those people are hard-core.
don_dunstan
There's actually good speculation that a lot of the people out the front weren't even union members but the neo nazi/psudoscience crowd. 3 very notorious Far-Right wing "journalists" who tend to go to places to stirr smeg up (two of which were Avi and the Bunnings Karen from last year) were there from the moment they were gathering, as if they knew it was going down beforehand.

Also, when have you ever seen a random crowd of union members with smeg pristine high vis on.

The construction site shutdown was going to happen, since 1/3rd of all clusters lately are from them.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Yep, a horrible thing that happened to that lovely lady - based on a cherry picked still photo. But nothing in comparison what happened to George Floyd.
DirtyBallast
Straws. Clutching.
There's actually good speculation...
speeddemon8
So you don't know.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Yep, a horrible thing that happened to that lovely lady - based on a cherry picked still photo. But nothing in comparison what happened to George Floyd.
Straws. Clutching.
There's actually good speculation...
So you don't know.
don_dunstan
I also failed to see the point of bringing up Floyd.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
Today I wrote to the PM asking if the way that the Medicare levy rate is assessed can be amended in favour of those that are partially vaccinated and further for fully vaccinated or with proven exemption, or perhaps increased for those unvaccinated and without valid exemption.

We will see if I get a response…

I hope something like this occurs.
You're full of righteous indignation and you think everyone should have the vaccines - I get that. However what you aren't considering is that once medical treatments are mandated with legislation you could be forced to do something in the future that you don't want to do.

It might seem like its logical and correct right now but once those systems are in place it could be used against you in ways that you never considered.
don_dunstan
I am not sure that I said mandating a vaccine, merely strongly disincentivising not having the vaccine.

It's not greatly different to the massive tax applied to tobacco. We don't incentivise not smoking, but we provide disincentive to smoke.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
The most important thing to remember is that of all the public ‘injured’ in the Victorian protest, every single one of them, even alleged 74 year old women and cameramen, had the option of simply not being there.

It’s really annoying when people pick a fight with police, and then complain that it wasn’t a fair fight.
  ANR Chief Commissioner

Amazing picture of a megaphone being cracked on someone's head from a news.com.au story about the CFMEU protest ...

!!!  NOW HEAR THIS !!!!

https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/4d32d6f9fbb13c280d808d306ea1353c
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
The most important thing to remember is that of all the public ‘injured’ in the Victorian protest, every single one of them, even alleged 74 year old women and cameramen, had the option of simply not being there.

It’s really annoying when people pick a fight with police, and then complain that it wasn’t a fair fight.
Aaron
Which is why they capsicum spray 74 year old women prostate on the ground and yet don't bother to stop a mob of angry CFMMEU blokes intent on a riot.

Get it?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
I am not sure that I said mandating a vaccine, merely strongly disincentivising not having the vaccine.

It's not greatly different to the massive tax applied to tobacco. We don't incentivise not smoking, but we provide disincentive to smoke.
Aaron
LOL, c'mon Aaron, those are weasel words. You wrote to ScoMo telling him you wanted those evil deniers punished... even you're starting to recognise that there's going to be unintended consequences from compelling medical treatment.

And for the record, smokers do us all a favor by dying early so we don't have to pay them aged pensions and keep them in nursing homes; they're actually being very considerate.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I am not sure that I said mandating a vaccine, merely strongly disincentivising not having the vaccine.

It's not greatly different to the massive tax applied to tobacco. We don't incentivise not smoking, but we provide disincentive to smoke.
LOL, c'mon Aaron, those are weasel words. You wrote to ScoMo telling him you wanted those evil deniers punished... even you're starting to recognise that there's going to be unintended consequences from compelling medical treatment.

And for the record, smokers do us all a favor by dying early so we don't have to pay them aged pensions and keep them in nursing homes; they're actually being very considerate.
don_dunstan
No, I want strong disincentivisation of remaining unvaccinated. Shifting the Medicare levy thresholds is a simple method of such.

Here’s the clue, if I wanted mandated vaccination I would have written to him and said ‘time to write new law Mr!’ - except I didn’t do that… Though I also wouldn’t vote against it if it became law.
  Aaron The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: University of Adelaide SA
I am not sure that I said mandating a vaccine, merely strongly disincentivising not having the vaccine.

It's not greatly different to the massive tax applied to tobacco. We don't incentivise not smoking, but we provide disincentive to smoke.
LOL, c'mon Aaron, those are weasel words. You wrote to ScoMo telling him you wanted those evil deniers punished... even you're starting to recognise that there's going to be unintended consequences from compelling medical treatment.

And for the record, smokers do us all a favor by dying early so we don't have to pay them aged pensions and keep them in nursing homes; they're actually being very considerate.
No, I want strong disincentivisation of remaining unvaccinated. Shifting the Medicare levy thresholds is a simple method of such.

Here’s the clue, if I wanted mandated vaccination I would have written to him and said ‘time to write new law Mr!’ - except I didn’t do that… Though I also wouldn’t vote against it if it became law.
Aaron
And before you complain, that doesn’t mean I would vote for it either. I make a point of not generally voting either way, unless there is something I feel the absolute need to vote for, nothing has prompted me to since 2011.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Victoria has recorded 603 new cases of delta as Premier Daniel ­Andrews leaves the door open to easing some restrictions sooner than his road map sets out, should modelling from the Burnet Institute not work out.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Byron has gone into lockdown as NSW records 1022 cases.

NSW has recorded 1022 locally acquired cases of Covid-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night, marking a slight rise since Mondays figures, and eight deaths.

Did anyone see the programme last night on Wuhan screening on the Sky News Channel?
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Byron has gone into lockdown as NSW records 1022 cases.

NSW has recorded 1022 locally acquired cases of Covid-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night, marking a slight rise since Mondays figures, and eight deaths.

Did anyone see the programme last night on Wuhan screening on the Sky News Channel?
bevans
I was just going to mention that program, I never saw it myself, but I heard that they used an athletics carnival by means of spreading the virus, if so, the Chinese are very deliberate by their actions!
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
No, I want strong disincentivisation of remaining unvaccinated. Shifting the Medicare levy thresholds is a simple method of such.

Here’s the clue, if I wanted mandated vaccination I would have written to him and said ‘time to write new law Mr!’ - except I didn’t do that… Though I also wouldn’t vote against it if it became law.
Aaron
Fair enough.
And before you complain, that doesn’t mean I would vote for it either. I make a point of not generally voting either way, unless there is something I feel the absolute need to vote for, nothing has prompted me to since 2011.
Aaron
Interesting you should mention that, I saw an article the other day that said two-party voting is at one of its lowest levels ever recorded - the public aren't happy with either of the major parties, they're fed up with them.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Hearing that Protestors have blocked the Westgate Freeway in Melbourne.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Hearing that Protestors have blocked the Westgate Freeway in Melbourne.
lsrailfan
Police have fired tear gas as well, what did you expect from the Right Whinge nut job's down there!!
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
So the most leftist union in Australia is full of right wing tradies?   Got it now.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
So the most leftist union in Australia is full of right wing tradies?   Got it now.
Donald
They are being infiltrated by these people.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Apparently most of the protesters are CFMEU members. But infiltrated by RWNJs nonetheless who seem to enjoy baiting the police etc.
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Apparently most of the protesters are CFMEU members. But infiltrated by RWNJs nonetheless who seem to enjoy baiting the police etc.
Carnot
You'd be surprised at how many site based tradies aren't actually left leaning in the slightest, and shovel the crap from whatever random facebooker/youtuber hand over fist at face value not realising they're being manipulated.
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
Apparently most of the protesters are CFMEU members. But infiltrated by RWNJs nonetheless who seem to enjoy baiting the police etc.
You'd be surprised at how many site based tradies aren't actually left leaning in the slightest, and shovel the crap from whatever random facebooker/youtuber hand over fist at face value not realising they're being manipulated.
speedemon08
Yep, there are lots of gullible right wingers in every union. My workplace is no different.

Back to the protest. It is becoming increasingly clear that the construction workers/CFMMEU members, who may or may not have genuine concerns, have been hijacked. Notwithstanding Shorten's rhetoric about imposters snapping up hi-vis clothing for $2 at the Reject Shop, there was an awful lot of fluoro orange being worn today that didn't feature company logos, or union logos, or project logos, or the compulsory reflective stripes required on site. Accordingly, it is easy to assume that a high percentage of protesters had no legitimate reason to be there.

To top it off, we saw the waving of Trump flags today. Says it all, really.

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