The corona virus COVID-19

 
  DirtyBallast Chief Commissioner

Location: Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
^ Probably should have placed most of my reply in the new Melbourne Vaccine Riots thread, had I realised that it existed before I wrote.

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  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
It simply isn't true that the majority weren't union members - they were, especially yesterday. Setka himself was on 3AW today saying "We've identified these people and there will be consequences of this. Some of them won't have a job to go back to once this is over".
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Union members or not, one thing that binds them is their desire to violently protest against the government's attempts to get us through these trying times.
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
Byron has gone into lockdown as NSW records 1022 cases.

NSW has recorded 1022 locally acquired cases of Covid-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night, marking a slight rise since Mondays figures, and eight deaths.

Did anyone see the programme last night on Wuhan screening on the Sky News Channel?
bevans
This should be interesting, if its gets in Byron then its next to one of the largest anti-vax communities in Australia, meanwhile biggest and best equipmented hospital in the region is just behind a closed border not far away
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
NSW Police had given their officers until 30th of November to get both vaccinations - but the policy has been challenged in the courts; Mondaq -

Senior Constable Belinda Hocroft, who is attached to the Dog and Mounted Police unit, has filed civil proceedings in the Supreme Court of NSW against the health minister seeking a declaration that the government does not have the power to pass orders which essentially coerce people into being vaccinated.

Ms Hocroft's legal team says the lawsuit, "specifically challenges the extent to which the Government may coerce its citizens to have themselves injected with a drug they object to taking, especially when there is a less intrusive alternative of having the unvaccinated citizens tested to ensure that they are not carrying the virus."

The Senior Constable has been working as a NSW Police Officer for 14 years and has been told that she cannot return to work until she has had one dose of the Covid-19 vaccination because she comes from a 'hotspot' zone.

"I am not against vaccines as such. However I am concerned about the long term effects of Covid-19 given they are relatively new vaccines," Ms Hocroft said in an affidavit to support her legal action.

"I am concerned the NSW Government is giving me an ultimatum by forcing me to take the vaccine otherwise I will become unemployed," she said.

Ms Hocroft said she is willing to undertake the rapid antigen testing before attending work.

I heard from a lawyer friend today that the NSW Police have been quietly paying any challengers to their policy big sums so they'd just go away rather than face a legal challenge in the courts - and its already been costing their government many, many millions. Is making the vaccine a condition of employment legally enforceable? Probably not.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield


I heard from a lawyer friend today that the NSW Police have been quietly paying any challengers to their policy big sums so they'd just go away rather than face a legal challenge in the courts - and its already been costing their government many, many millions. Is making the vaccine a condition of employment legally enforceable? Probably not.
don_dunstan
This is typical of the quality of your sources. You, living in Adelaide, heard a story from a lawyer friend, and the story is about something happening in the NSW Police. The story is that the NSW Police are doing something illegal that is costing them millions of dollars, but being quiet about it of course, so quiet that you, a man in Adelaide, with a lawyer friend, has heard the story. The bean counters in the government haven't noticed or at least haven't asked questions about these millions going missing because they are, no doubt, in on the scheme. Your story is trouble making rubbish from start to finish.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Some interesting revelations on the Wuhan lab:
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud


I heard from a lawyer friend today that the NSW Police have been quietly paying any challengers to their policy big sums so they'd just go away rather than face a legal challenge in the courts - and its already been costing their government many, many millions. Is making the vaccine a condition of employment legally enforceable? Probably not.This is typical of the quality of your sources. You, living in Adelaide, heard a story from a lawyer friend, and the story is about something happening in the NSW Police. The story is that the NSW Police are doing something illegal that is costing them millions of dollars, but being quiet about it of course, so quiet that you, a man in Adelaide, with a lawyer friend, has heard the story. The bean counters in the government haven't noticed or at least haven't asked questions about these millions going missing because they are, no doubt, in on the scheme. Your story is trouble making rubbish from start to finish.
billybaxter
Wrong as usual. What they're doing is not the least bit illegal but as with many things related to the virus and the vaccines, they don't want the public to know about it. You're a NSW taxpayer (I presume), Billy, did you know that they were doing this? Are you happy about it? Of course not - that's why they don't want the public to know.

Government departments give employees money to go away all the time, Billy - I know for a fact that Corrections here in SA give employees lump sums to resign their employment outside of the official channels if they're under-performing or on medical restrictions. Not new, not illegal.
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Some interesting revelations on the Wuhan lab:
Carnot
This isn't new but it was labelled a 'conspiracy theory' when it was first revealed several months ago. I don't think we'll ever know for sure if the virus came from that Wuhan lab or not - there's too many vested interests globally obfuscating any investigative process as WHO found out themselves.
  303gunner Train Controller

Watching this I am very worried about the vaccine

8502
Which vaccine?  Did "They" say which vaccine they're talking about?
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Watching this I am very worried about the vaccine

https://t.co/FHQah2gVzg" / Twitter
8502
Is this a joke??
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
The RWNJ'S have now stormed the shrine of remembrance Sad
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Originally I considered Albos $300 jab payment policy was poor policy, still do.
However, reckon many of these RWFW, would have ditched their principles for the coin.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Watching this I am very worried about the vaccine
8502
Over the course of a long life I have had warnings or alarms about fluoride in drinking water, food in PVC bottles, too much/too little red meat, alcohol, BCG vaccine for TB, coffee, bacon, sausages, windscreen washer fluid, air fresheners, sunscreens, nylon clothing, and heaven knows what else whilst I have also completely ignored the idiot anti-vax fringe.
I have been forced to conclude that the only way to avoid any risk is to quit breathing.
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Wow what a day
  doyle Chief Commissioner

Talking to my respiratory doctor today, expecting 4000 covid infections per day on current projections in the months to come in Victoria.
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
Talking to my respiratory doctor today, expecting 4000 covid infections per day on current projections in the months to come in Victoria.
doyle
So much for the lockdown and all the restrictions.

They are leading up to the NSW type lockdowns where certain local government areas are isolated and everyone good, bad, law abiding, vaccinated etc are going to be lumped into the one bin.

Anything but enforce equally the current restrictions. Restaurants, hotels, cafes, shops etc have not been allowed indoor patrons for ages but the entire construction industry which is renowned for ignoring all the Covid rules (masks for example) has been allowed to eat, congregate etc (whatever) in meal rooms in direct contravention of the rules applying to the rest of the community for ever.

If it wasn't for being so serious it would be laughable. Sacred cows.

If media reports this afternoon are correct (?) one demonstrator has now been admitted to hospital with Covid.

The whole situation is not only out of control it is a farce.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
If that is indeed the case YM, look for a massive case spike in the coming days, same thing happened up here in NSW with the protests, numbers were bumbling along at a high, but manageable rate, then a few days after the first lockdown protest, the cases just started ballooning out of control!
  303gunner Train Controller

So much for the lockdown and all the restrictions.

Anything but enforce equally the current restrictions. Restaurants, hotels, cafes, shops etc have not been allowed indoor patrons for ages but the entire construction industry which is renowned for ignoring all the Covid rules (masks for example) has been allowed to eat, congregate etc (whatever) in meal rooms in direct contravention of the rules applying to the rest of the community for ever.

If it wasn't for being so serious it would be laughable. Sacred cows.

The whole situation is not only out of control it is a farce.
YM-Mundrabilla
Not just the Construction Industry:

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/how-the-v-line-outbreak-unfolded-and-what-it-means-for-the-rail-system
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
So much for the lockdown and all the restrictions.

Anything but enforce equally the current restrictions. Restaurants, hotels, cafes, shops etc have not been allowed indoor patrons for ages but the entire construction industry which is renowned for ignoring all the Covid rules (masks for example) has been allowed to eat, congregate etc (whatever) in meal rooms in direct contravention of the rules applying to the rest of the community for ever.

If it wasn't for being so serious it would be laughable. Sacred cows.

The whole situation is not only out of control it is a farce.
Not just the Construction Industry:

https://www.railpage.com.au/news/s/how-the-v-line-outbreak-unfolded-and-what-it-means-for-the-rail-system
303gunner
Same situation exactly.
It defies my imagination that government, health, industry management and employees could think that crib rooms could, by their very nature and purpose, be other than super spreader areas.
You run a coffee shop and get one extra person inside or one who hasn't signed in and you are 'gone a million' but if you are in a construction or transport site crib room ................... Rolling Eyes
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
It appears the number of new cases in a day Metropolitan Melbourne (with a population of about 5 million) is more than that of the whole of the world's most vaccinated country, the U.A.E, with a population of over 9 million.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
It appears the number of new cases in a day Metropolitan Melbourne (with a population of about 5 million) is more than that of the whole of the world's most vaccinated country, the U.A.E, with a population of over 9 million.
Myrtone

Which goes to show that the vaccines work.
  Myrtone Chief Commissioner

Location: North Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria
And actually suggests they are on their way to achieving herd immunity. Those who've recovered from COVID-19 tend not to get it again.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Latest export from Vic to Tasmania:


They have to realise that it's coming soon...
  RTT_Rules Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Dubai UAE
It appears the number of new cases in a day Metropolitan Melbourne (with a population of about 5 million) is more than that of the whole of the world's most vaccinated country, the U.A.E, with a population of over 9 million.

Which goes to show that the vaccines work.
lsrailfan
Achieved by introducing policies that to many people in Australia are protesting about as well as using Chinese vaccines early on while waiting for Pfizer.

Its interesting that over here many Aussies (and Kiwis) are thankful that they live in a country like the UAE (READ Absolute Monarchy, effectively a benevolent dictatorship) which has applied authoritarian style directives for people to follow in regard lockdowns, I mean real lockdowns not Australian or NZ style, restrictions in movement and activities and forcing frequent PCR testing and making life without vaccine extremely difficult or simply impossible appears to have managed the CV-19 vaccination and in general CV-19 management, much better than their home country (Oz or NZ).

Yet at the same time, these same people support the protests in Melbourne for people to reclaim their "Freedoms" and other things that Australian/NZ govts are trying to implement to limit spread of CV-19 and encourage vaccination.

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