Farcebook ditches News

 
  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
The Railpage Facebook page is gone as well.
MysticRose
Yes it is gone at the moment. Interestingly other groups such as QRIG are not impacted.

Maybe it is due to the "news" posts.

I look forward to see how RP goes with this. If it is a mistake by FB or it is meant to be included.

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  ANR Chief Commissioner

What is Facebook?
  don_dunstan Dr Beeching

Location: Adelaide proud
Facebook is NOT a public information service - they don't disseminate information for the good of the people. They have no such charter. The fact that they can pull government information services from their site without any justification should be a stark reminder to everyone that Facebook isn't actually a public utility - its a foreign-owned private company and its primary focus is in making money. People in government (and the opposition) can stamp their feet as much as they want about Facebook but the fact is that they're not obliged to carry any third party information that they don't want to and in fact they've shown everyone today that they can ditch all the government dissemination channels at a moment's notice if they choose without repercussions. If the government wants to set up its own competing official social-media site (as they Chinese Communist Party did with WeChat) then there's nothing stopping them.

End-of-story.
  billybaxter Chief Commissioner

Location: Bosnia Park, Fairfield
Completely agree with Don. One of the basest of human instincts, the cardinal sin of sloth, has led people to rely on the Facebook as if it were some sort of official government mouthpiece, speaking The Truth to all. It's nothing of the sort. I think this whole thing will teach people to up their game and put a bit more research and discernment into their News Finding habits. Bravo!
  Donald Chief Commissioner

Location: Donald. Duck country.
How are the TV news going to survive?   Half their stories come from FB.
  Carnot Minister for Railways

Welcome back to 2006!
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Doesn't bother me.  I get all my news from Railpage.

You would be amazed at the number of reads of Railpage news and the referrals to sites. 20,000+ per week just out of social media.  With the network issues resolved I expect that to double.
bevans
You mean there's a chance that people could actually read the rubbish I write, ship , I'll shut up then.
  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Facebook is NOT a public information service - they don't disseminate information for the good of the people. They have no such charter. The fact that they can pull government information services from their site without any justification should be a stark reminder to everyone that Facebook isn't actually a public utility - its a foreign-owned private company and its primary focus is in making money. People in government (and the opposition) can stamp their feet as much as they want about Facebook but the fact is that they're not obliged to carry any third party information that they don't want to and in fact they've shown everyone today that they can ditch all the government dissemination channels at a moment's notice if they choose without repercussions. If the government wants to set up its own competing official social-media site (as they Chinese Communist Party did with WeChat) then there's nothing stopping them.

End-of-story.
don_dunstan
I don't think anyone is going to disagree with you Don.

FB is a private business. In fact, I think FB is shooting themselves in the foot, as people will realise that they either won't miss the news bit or if a site relies on FB, eg RP lately with their Cam shots, they will move to another platform.

It is choice. FB is basically saying to Australians, you can use us, but we have taken away the news functionality.

I think we will easily learn to live without it.

Never know, MySpace may make a come back LOL. The irony is that Newscorp owned MySpace then flogged it off. Imagine the conspiracy if they they still owned MySpace.

I can see Pete Evans warming up.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Having never used Facebook, I couldn't care less what it does.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Having never used Facebook, I couldn't care less what it does.
Valvegear
Never used Facebook either but, it’s given both Morrison and Murdoch the middle finger.
I love it!
  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Ahhh, I see why the Railpage FB page has been impacted. It says that it is a @Railpage · Media/news company
I didn't realise that. Good luck in using FB.
  Big J Deputy Commissioner

Location: In Paradise
Having never used Facebook, I couldn't care less what it does.
Never used Facebook either but, it’s given both Morrison and Murdoch the middle finger.
I love it!
michaelgm
FB Vs Newscorp, is bit like a Manly Vs Canterbury NRL Grand final (substitute your least favourite teams in your favourite sport).

I dislike them both. I am not crying for either of them.
  NSWGR8022 Chief Commissioner

Location: From the lands of Journalism and Free Speech
What this issue does highlight is how powerful facebook is and why we should be having these discussions about breaking up facebook.  For the record I do not believe in this case facebook should be paying for content don;t they receive the content from the owner anyhow via posting or via sharing?
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
It's interesting seeing a photo from Tasmania of a news stand and every NewsCorp/Murdoch paper has virtually the same headline because they're the ones who wanted the legislation in the parliment that Facebook just so happened to "abide" by.

It's almost as if Newscorp wants all the free traffic coming from articles shared on social media while they get paid for having their work shared.

  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Facebook is NOT a public information service - they don't disseminate information for the good of the people. They have no such charter. The fact that they can pull government information services from their site without any justification should be a stark reminder to everyone that Facebook isn't actually a public utility - its a foreign-owned private company and its primary focus is in making money. People in government (and the opposition) can stamp their feet as much as they want about Facebook but the fact is that they're not obliged to carry any third party information that they don't want to and in fact they've shown everyone today that they can ditch all the government dissemination channels at a moment's notice if they choose without repercussions. If the government wants to set up its own competing official social-media site (as they Chinese Communist Party did with WeChat) then there's nothing stopping them.

End-of-story.
don_dunstan
If I read right News barely even factors in for them as a profit anyway, as it doesnt even get close to reaching double digits from revenue.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
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  WimbledonW Chief Train Controller

Location: Sydney
What is Facebook?
ANR
Facebook was in the first place a website that allowed students to rate class members as "hot or not".

It is still childish.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

Doesn't bother me.  I get all my news from Railpage.

You would be amazed at the number of reads of Railpage news and the referrals to sites. 20,000+ per week just out of social media.  With the network issues resolved I expect that to double.
bevans

Like many here (we are here after all), I have no love for fartbook.  But as I understand this legislation, *all* social media providers (like these RP forums) need to compensate all major media companies if they present anything even vaguely representing news on their site.  And they need to do this if it;s news the media companies carry or not.

So Fartbook has to pay News Corp "compensation" for stealing their "news" that the local cricket club is running the sausage sizzle at Bunnings this Sunday.  Community News is something mainstream has largely abandoned, with most local mastheads little more than websites posting @don_dunstan opinion pieces with an algorithm drafted troll-bait beneath a  bikini-clad "model".

The whole thing stinks to high heaven.  And while people are bagging out FB (perhaps rightly), how long before the patent trolls from NewsCorp legal start mass mailing out letters of demand to every public school trying to notify people of a P&C meeting?
  speedemon08 Mary

Location: I think by now you should have figured it out
Doesn't bother me.  I get all my news from Railpage.

You would be amazed at the number of reads of Railpage news and the referrals to sites. 20,000+ per week just out of social media.  With the network issues resolved I expect that to double.

Like many here (we are here after all), I have no love for fartbook.  But as I understand this legislation, *all* social media providers (like these RP forums) need to compensate all major media companies if they present anything even vaguely representing news on their site.  And they need to do this if it;s news the media companies carry or not.

So Fartbook has to pay News Corp "compensation" for stealing their "news" that the local cricket club is running the sausage sizzle at Bunnings this Sunday.  Community News is something mainstream has largely abandoned, with most local mastheads little more than websites posting @don_dunstan opinion pieces with an algorithm drafted troll-bait beneath a  bikini-clad "model".

The whole thing stinks to high heaven.  And while people are bagging out FB (perhaps rightly), how long before the patent trolls from NewsCorp legal start mass mailing out letters of demand to every public school trying to notify people of a P&C meeting?
djf01
Irony is it was the media companies themselves posting the links half the time
  Gayspie Deputy Commissioner

Location: Adelaide, SA
This whole Facebook News situation sounds weird.

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