The demise of Christen Porter

 
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

would seem that truth is unlikely to be established on either side of the allegations.
Aaron

I think the truth has been well and truly established.  

Douchebag, however it's spun.

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  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
There was quite a bit of other dirty laundry going around about Porter over the last few months, some of it was about paying various women large sums of money to shut up. How true it was I don't no, but there was a shed load of it.
  michaelgm Chief Commissioner

Withdrawal is now victory. Got it.
  Graham4405 The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Dalby Qld
Withdrawal is now victory. Got it.
michaelgm
But he's still not dead... Wink
  Madjikthise Deputy Commissioner

"Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the broadcaster"

"Mr Porter says it is a "humiliating backdown" by the public broadcaster"

How the hell does that make sense?
  YM-Mundrabilla Minister for Railways

Location: Mundrabilla but I'd rather be in Narvik
"Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the broadcaster"

"Mr Porter says it is a "humiliating backdown" by the public broadcaster"

How the hell does that make sense?
Madjikthise
It doesn't!
  The Vinelander Minister for Railways

Location: Ballan, Victoria on the Ballarat RFR Line
In relation to their airing of Katharine Thornton’s claims I read, but now cannot find that the ABC were intending to run with ‘the truth’ as a defence in Porter’s action.

If this is true, then the ABC need to be disbanded
Aaron

A slight over-reaction I'd say.

It's obvious Porter was guilty and as Paul Barry said on Monday night, the only concession the ABC made was to add a disclaimer to the original accusations which are still on its website.

And the tabloid current affairs TV and Murdoch scandal rags don't do much worse Question

Mike.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
"Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the broadcaster"

"Mr Porter says it is a "humiliating backdown" by the public broadcaster"

How the hell does that make sense?
"Majikthise"
It doesn't; it makes spin. When Porter first sued the ABC, I said that it would never get to trial, and that Porter was suing because the best means of defence is attack. That still stands. He knows he hasn't got a leg to stand on, but the spin doctors are persisting with the attack mode. I doubt if anyone is fooled.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
"Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the broadcaster"

"Mr Porter says it is a "humiliating backdown" by the public broadcaster"

How the hell does that make sense?
It doesn't; it makes spin. When Porter first sued the ABC, I said that it would never get to trial, and that Porter was suing because the best means of defence is attack. That still stands. He knows he hasn't got a leg to stand on, but the spin doctors are persisting with the attack mode. I doubt if anyone is fooled.
Valvegear

Unfortunately you're overestimating the intelligence of the Sky News comment sections.
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Unfortunately you're overestimating the intelligence of the Sky News comment sections.
"Greensleeves"
Given the fact that I never watch or listen to Sky News, I have to disagree with you. My comments were my own, and not prompted by any agency.
  Greensleeves Chief Commissioner

Location: If it isn't obvious by now, it should be.
Unfortunately you're overestimating the intelligence of the Sky News comment sections.
Given the fact that I never watch or listen to Sky News, I have to disagree with you. My comments were my own, and not prompted by any agency.
Valvegear
I was referring to the "I doubt if anyone is fooled" part of your comment, though they could just as easily be in denial too.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
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Christian Porter criticised the ABC In connection with the settlement of his defamation case against it. He can say or believe what he wants, but his reputation is trash. Speaking for myself, I believe that he is a terrible, immoral and grotesque human being
  justapassenger Minister for Railways

"Christian Porter has decided to discontinue his defamation action against the broadcaster"

"Mr Porter says it is a "humiliating backdown" by the public broadcaster"

How the hell does that make sense?
It doesn't; it makes spin. When Porter first sued the ABC, I said that it would never get to trial, and that Porter was suing because the best means of defence is attack. That still stands. He knows he hasn't got a leg to stand on, but the spin doctors are persisting with the attack mode. I doubt if anyone is fooled.
Valvegear
That would be because he still needs to win his fight to keep 27 pages of the ABC's defence suppressed and out of the hands of News Corp and Nine/Fairfax.

In the event the two media groups lose in court, I wouldn't bet against Wikileaks getting hold of the full defence and timing the release for maximum effect.
  djf01 Chief Commissioner

My favourite irony of this case:

Porter himself argued, that even though the ABC did not mention him by name, everyone would know it was him.  It's hard to see how anyone could damage a reputation like that.
  wobert Chief Commissioner
  8502 Junior Train Controller

Christian Porter's political career is finished, no matter what you believe
Let me just say I accept that Christian Porter believes what he says about the sexual assault allegations against him. I also thank him for having the guts to hold a press conference to answer questions. It cannot have been easy, although perhaps easier than hearing whispers in the corridors abruptly terminated as he approaches.

Speaking about sexual assault is never easy for any of us. Perhaps the minister's experience will be a lesson for his colleagues.

I am sure many of you will be furious with me for recognising his effort. But here is the thing: it no longer matters what you think or what I think. In the long term, Christian Porter's political career is over. The tears he shed on Wednesday were clearly from stress, but they also must have been tears of regret. He has lost the future he thought he had.

If he ever returns to the role of Attorney-General, it will only be for a brief time. There can be no more prestigious frontbench roles. He might end up as the minister for whatever politicians call people in regional Australia that they want to keep happy, but never do.

But Porter will never be prime minister. He can't be. There will always be the lingering question in the minds of many. Did he? Did he do it? These stories can never be unread. And now the family of the woman who died by suicide is backing an inquiry Unlike the Prime Minister. How fascinating it will be to see what such an inquiry finds. Is the Attorney-General fit to hold his position?


Just for the record, the director of Monash University's Gender and Family Violence Prevention Centre, Kate Fitz-Gibbon, tells me it is rare - very rare - for a woman to make a false allegation of rape.

Christian Porter's political career is finished, no matter what you believe The Canberra Times Canberra, ACT
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
An amount of detail concerning statements made by Porter's late alleged victim (Kate) has emerged today. The whole dossier runs to 31 pages and the victim's friend, Jo Dyer, has said, "There are a number of reasons why I thought Kate was telling the truth. First and foremost was the story she told was so clear and so consistent and so detailed. Secondly, really, the incident as she described . . . the acts that she described were not something that a 16-year-old virgin would consent to."
The story continues describing, inter alia,  two instances of anal rape as well as other offences.
There is an awful lot of smoke here, and the fact that Porter baled out of his defamation suit leads me to suspect that there's a decent fire creating that smoke. When the case was abandoned, Porter attempted to file a consent order removing the ABC's defence from the court file. Justice Jayne Jagot refused the request to remove it, and it has allowed media to make submissions that that the defence should be released to the public.

Stay tuned; there's more to come yet.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
Christian Porter and his defamation barrister are facing a potential costs bill in the order of half a million dollars after losing a legal fight with a friend of the woman who accused the federal Liberal minister of rape.

Mr Porter and Sydney defamation expert Sue Chysanthou, SC, were ordered to pay the legal costs of Jo Dyer, a theatre and film producer and festival director, after she won Federal Court proceedings to stop Ms Chrysanthou acting for Mr Porter in his defamation proceedings against the ABC.

At a hearing in the Federal Court on Tuesday, Ms Dyer's costs were estimated to be in the order of $550,000, based on one assessment. But Mr Porter and Ms Chrysanthou have queried how that sum was calculated.
  wobert Chief Commissioner

Location: Half way between Propodolla and Kinimakatka
Lawyers complaining about the price of lawyers.  Beautiful
  wobert Chief Commissioner

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