Protests continue for second night in Minnesota

 
  Upven Junior Train Controller

Was justice denied for a politically correct outcome ?
Short answer: No bloody way.  Did you watch the video? Did you hear or read the autopsy report? Are you aware that this about the first time anyone can remember fellow US police officers giving evidence for the prosecution, against one of their own?

Politically correct?  Pig's ear.
Valvegear
Is that the autopsy report where he was found to be on enough fentanyl and had enough drugs shoved inside his anus to kill a horse? Such a weird year that in 2021, a convicted criminal's death is turned into some case of martyrdom. Weird how the court case excluded all of the body cam footage except for a 9 minute window. Weird.

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  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Was justice denied for a politically correct outcome ?
Short answer: No bloody way.  Did you watch the video? Did you hear or read the autopsy report? Are you aware that this about the first time anyone can remember fellow US police officers giving evidence for the prosecution, against one of their own?

Politically correct?  Pig's ear.
Is that the autopsy report where he was found to be on enough fentanyl and had enough drugs shoved inside his anus to kill a horse? Such a weird year that in 2021, a convicted criminal's death is turned into some case of martyrdom. Weird how the court case excluded all of the body cam footage except for a 9 minute window. Weird.
Upven
Yes apparently there was some struggle between Floyd and the officers before he passed, but that is no excuse whatsoever for what Chauvin did, none whatsoever!! he should have been found as guilty as sin!
  mejhammers1 Chief Commissioner

Was justice denied for a politically correct outcome ?

I wonder sometimes.

@freightgate. Really? Really? I am not going to explain about the overwhelming evidence against Chauvin. That has been very succinctly explained by @Valvegear. But riddle me this, was the Conviction of Police Office Noor of the killing of Justine Damond, politically correct?

Such a weird year that in 2021, a convicted criminal's death is turned into some case of martyrdom.

@Upven. That is 90 shades of bs right there. It is a truly pathetic argument. Here you are totally missing the point so completely. I do not care if he had the crown jewels up his rear. So he should die for a minor misdemeanor because of a crime he had served time for over a decade ago?  That is so irrelevant its not funny. OK by that same logic, when Dylan Roof or that a$$hole who shot 8 people gets out, and they get stopped by the police for a minor infraction, by your logic they should die because they are convicted murderers. The defence tried to sullie the name of Botham John when he was killed by Amber Guyger in his own home eating Ice Cream in his Jocks. That he had marijuana in his draws. Big deal, so they want to convict him of smoking a joint whilst black?

Floyd was killed like an animal, in the most brutal of circumstances, completely stripped of his rights.

So for me, its not the bloody point at all. He was arrested for a minor misdemeanor and for that he winds up dead. The reason why his case was so highlighted is because it was captured on video. There was overwhelming evidence. But it is not just about George Floyd. Its about Breonna Taylor, Armaud Arberry, Botham John, Atianna Jefferies, Tamir Rice, Sandra Bland, Eric Garner, Philando Castille and I can go on and on.

The point is the injustice and systemic racism that black people face at the hands of law enforcement. Black people are losing their lives because of such minor offences and yet white man after white man after white man after white man after white man commit mass gun shooting murders in the US and if they don't commit suicide (GOOD), then they get a happy finish from law enforcement and safety in a prison cell. And as a black person in the US that would pi$$ you off to put it mildly.

So @Upven, you can dismiss it as being partisan all you like, but the truth is in the US white people are given the benefit of the doubt by the Police, black people are not.

The fact that the both of you, confronted with overwhelming video evidence and testimonies from emergency services, other police officers, a $hit load of witnesses and the autopsy report, are making excuses for a psychotic racist nut job is just mind bogglingly offensive.

And there are millions who think just like you. Who get their information by watching AOWD (Angry Old White Dude) networks like FOX, Sky News Australia and NewsMax.

And that is why BLM exists warts and all.


Michael
  Stafford Station Staff

Location: Kalgoorlie
Columbus shooting, including bodycam footage.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpnibt9RQ2U
  Valvegear Oliver Bullied, CME

Location: Richmond Vic
Is that the autopsy report where he was found to be on enough fentanyl and had enough drugs shoved inside his anus to kill a horse? Such a weird year that in 2021, a convicted criminal's death is turned into some case of martyrdom. Weird how the court case excluded all of the body cam footage except for a 9 minute window. Weird.
"Upven"
We'll leave your emotive and inaccurate language aside, as well as your errors of fact.

Here is the report from CNN on the autopsy findings:-
(CNN)Experts hired by George Floyd's family and the Hennepin County Medical Examiner have concluded his death was a homicide, but they differ on what caused it.
The independent autopsy says Floyd died of "asphyxiation from sustained pressure" when his neck and back were compressed by Minneapolis police officers during his arrest last week. The pressure cut off blood flow to his brain, that autopsy determined.
But the medical examiner's office, in its report also released Monday, said that the cause of death is "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." Cardiopulmonary arrest means Floyd's heart failed.
The medical examiner made no mention of asphyxiation.
The Hennepin County release says heart disease was an issue; the independent examiner didn't find that.
The county said that fentanyl and methamphetamine use were among "significant conditions," but its report didn't say how much of either drug was in Floyd's system or how that may have contributed.

"Whether or not he was intoxicated or had medications in his system is irrelevant to the cause of death, which is homicide, which is death by the hand of another," Floyd family attorney Antonio Romanucci told CNN. "The end result, which is George Floyd's death, would not be any different."
Floyd, 46, was essentially "dead on the scene" on May 25, said Ben Crump, an attorney for the family.
Multiple videos of Floyd's death show former police officer Derek Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck, along with other officers kneeling on his back.
The officer had his knee on Floyd's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds in total and two minutes and 53 seconds after Floyd was unresponsive, according to the criminal complaint against Chauvin.


Among other things, you may notice that both medical examiners agree that the cause of death was homicide. You may also care to note that there is no mention of the quantities of fentanyl or methamphetamine, let alone "enough to kill a horse".
Then, the critical video was that of an independent witness; not police body cam. Whatever body cam may have shown, Chauvin had no excuse at all to kneel on Floyd's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds - what was he trying to do? Subdue the man for nearly six minutes after he had become unresponsive?
It is interesting that you refer to Floyd's death as that of a convicted criminal. I gather from that remark that the death, at  police hands, of someone with  prior convictions is acceptable to you.

I'll leave it to you to ponder your own moral code.
  lsrailfan Chief Commissioner

Location: Somewhere you're not
Yep, it don't matter if Floyd had drugs in his system, nor a convicted criminal, the fact of the matter is that he was murdered by the hands of a moronic Cop that should have known better!

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