Archaeology Quiz part 1

 
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

sorry david

kadina wallaroo as NG and was convert to BG however when the SG between Adelaide and Port pirie opened an put a third rail down to make the both SG and BG. Now the line is only BG gauge as YPR convert to BG most of the SG is still there however there are parts missing.
"Mobiletom"

There was a broad gauge horse tramway for 15 years before the SAR narrow gauge line arrived in 1877.

Cheers
David
"DavidB"


David is correct.  Rail transport between those two towns went from BG horse tram to NG steam train to BG steam (and later diesel) trains.  The line to Moonta was closed before the SG reached Wallaroo.

Your question David.

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  DavidB Moderator

Location: Canberra
Which railway served two different locations with the same name, in the same state, at the same time?

Cheers
David
  TA 2000 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA - I wish!
sorry david

kadina wallaroo as NG and was convert to BG however when the SG between Adelaide and Port pirie opened an put a third rail down to make the both SG and BG. Now the line is only BG gauge as YPR convert to BG most of the SG is still there however there are parts missing.
"Mobiletom"

There was a broad gauge horse tramway for 15 years before the SAR narrow gauge line arrived in 1877.

Cheers
David
"DavidB"


David is correct.  Rail transport between those two towns went from BG horse tram to NG steam train to BG steam (and later diesel) trains.  The line to Moonta was closed before the SG reached Wallaroo.

Your question David.
"duttonbay"


when was moonta closed, and then when was it pull up.
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
Which railway served two different locations with the same name, in the same state, at the same time?

Cheers
David
"DavidB"
Victorian Railways, Strezlecki from Koo-Wee-Rup, Strezlecki (Siding) from Korumburra.  The former was open 1922 to 1930, the latter 1894 to ? (at least 1927).

I expect that their could be some dispute about this answer, though.
  DavidB Moderator

Location: Canberra
Which railway served two different locations with the same name, in the same state, at the same time?
"DavidB"

Victorian Railways, Strezlecki from Koo-Wee-Rup, Strezlecki (Siding) from Korumburra.  The former was open 1922 to 1930, the latter 1894 to ? (at least 1927).

I expect that their could be some dispute about this answer, though.
"John of Melbourne"

The one I was thinking of had identical names. But if nobody else gets it, I'll pay this one.

Cheers
David
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
Which railway served two different locations with the same name, in the same state, at the same time?

Cheers
David
"DavidB"
My other thought - but it's a bit of a guess because I'm not sure of exact names and dates - is SAR, Kingston (and Kingston S.E.)
  allan Chief Commissioner

Kingston was the first one to cross my mind, also, but the railway didn't quite reach Kingston-on-Murray, from either the East (stopped at Barmera) or the South (stopped at Yinkanie). Another prospect was Paringa, but Paringa-in-the Hills was renamed Balyarta long before Paringa-on-Murray was connected to the railway.
  DavidB Moderator

Location: Canberra
Kingston was the first one to cross my mind, also, but the railway didn't quite reach Kingston-on-Murray, from either the East (stopped at Barmera) or the South (stopped at Yinkanie). Another prospect was Paringa, but Paringa-in-the Hills was renamed Balyarta long before Paringa-on-Murray was connected to the railway.
"allan"

Kingston wasn't the one I was thinking of either. The one I had in mind had identical single word names. Perhaps another hint might "narrow" it down a bit.

Cheers
David
  DavidB Moderator

Location: Canberra
Nobody seems to have got it, so I'll give it to John for Strezlecki.

I was thinking of the private lines to Invicta in Queensland. The one near Avondale was built by Fairymead Mill in 1911 but worked by QR locos. The mill closed in 1918 and was relocated near Townsville, and the new site was also named Invicta. QR continued to operate the original Invicta line until 1928. So for 10 years there were two places named Invicta served by QR (although QR didn't actually own the line).

Over to you, John.

Cheers
David
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
Question

Where were the last two visible, in-situ, portions of cable tram track in Melbourne?
  F224 Chief Train Controller

Location: Para Hills West SA
The last bit was at the western end of Bourke Street, and was about 2 metres in length. Not sure about the second to last yet....
  F224 Chief Train Controller

Location: Para Hills West SA
I am still not sure, but if memory serves, there was another piece on Bourke Street, a bit further in from Spencer Street than the first one I mentioned
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
I am still not sure, but if memory serves, there was another piece on Bourke Street, a bit further in from Spencer Street than the first one I mentioned
"F224"
Not that I know of.
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
Question

Where were the last two visible, in-situ, portions of cable tram track in Melbourne?
"I"

Goodness, I thought that somebody would know.  Any more takers/guesses/stabs-in-the-dark?  The second-last one was in use until it was removed, probably in the 1980s.  (Does that help or confuse?)
  DavidB Moderator

Location: Canberra
Question

Where were the last two visible, in-situ, portions of cable tram track in Melbourne?
"I"

Goodness, I thought that somebody would know.  Any more takers/guesses/stabs-in-the-dark?  The second-last one was in use until it was removed, probably in the 1980s.  (Does that help or confuse?)
"John of Melbourne"

I remember seeing the last two sections. Just can't remember where. :)

Cheers
David
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
The second-last bit of extant visible cable tram track was in the tramway crossing at the intersection of Flinders Street and Market Street.  If I have this right, it was the Flinders Street tracks that were ex-cable trams.  I don't remember when it was replaced, but I'll take a guess that it was in the mid 1980s.

F224 answered half the question, so I guess that it is his turn.
  F224 Chief Train Controller

Location: Para Hills West SA
At the maximum extent of the Sydney Tramway Systems, what was the terminus farthest from "Railway".
  F224 Chief Train Controller

Location: Para Hills West SA
Hmmm. I am not having a lot of luck getting answers anywhere Smile

Is this question:

A) Too hard
B) Not really in the theme
C) You haven't seen it yet
  duttonbay Minister for Railways

At the maximum extent of the Sydney Tramway Systems, what was the terminus farthest from "Railway".
"F224"


Well, to get the ball rolling, let's assume by "Railway" you mean the Central station terminus.  (See, already I am demonstrating a lack of knowledge of the Sydney tram system).

There were trams at Paramtatta, but I am not certain they counted as "Sydney".  What about the Sans Souci terminus of the steam tramway?

John Dennis
  F224 Chief Train Controller

Location: Para Hills West SA
Sans Souci - no.
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
At the maximum extent of the Sydney Tramway Systems, what was the terminus farthest from "Railway".
"F224"
There were trams at Paramtatta...
John Dennis
"duttonbay"
Thanks for the clue John.  Castle Hill?
  F224 Chief Train Controller

Location: Para Hills West SA
That's the one. The Parramatta - Castle Hill line was part of the overall Sydney system. There was also a private Parramatta - Redbank Wharf line.

The Castle Hill line became a short lived branch to the Western line at Westmead. I would doubt there is a lot left of it now, so it's intellectual archaeology.

All yours, J of M.
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
All yours, J of M.
"F224"

Drat.  Now I have to think of another question.  Smile

A passenger-carrying tramway in a Western Australian mining town had both an unusual name and an unusual gauge?  What were the name and the gauge Question
  F224 Chief Train Controller

Location: Para Hills West SA
Leonora, 2' 6" gauge.
  John of Melbourne The Ghost of George Stephenson

Location: Melbourne suburbs
Leonora, 2' 6" gauge.
"F224"
If there was a 2' 6" tramway there, it is not unusual enough (especially that gauge is not that unusual to this Victorian!).  Not the answer that I was after.

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