Graeme Beginner

Location: Sydney
Hi
Can anyone tell me when the Orbost Line was truncated to Bairnsdale?

Thanks

Graeme

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  Graeme Beginner

Location: Sydney
OK, I'll attempt to answer my own question.

I have found that the line to Nowa Nowa was closed in 1987. From where I know not.

Passenger services ceased to Orbost in 1935.
Confused
  TA 2000 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA - I wish!
OK, I'll attempt to answer my own question.

I have found that the line to Nowa Nowa was closed in 1987. From where I know not.

Passenger services ceased to Orbost in 1935.
Confused
"Graeme"


The line to orbost was still there when I was last there in 1989 however it wasn't at all being used.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
I believe the line was removed mid 90's from memory reading an article in one of the regular mags.  A shame really, it makes you wonder had the line still been there, would FA have been working on this line with logs to Geelong?
  TA 2000 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA - I wish!
I got told the line was closed because one of the trains fell off one of the bridges. The track from memory was not in good condition when I last look at it in 89.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
I got told the line was closed because one of the trains fell off one of the bridges. The track from memory was not in good condition when I last look at it in 89.
"Mobiletom"


Sounds like you are refering to ALL the track in victoria.  Wink
  Graeme Beginner

Location: Sydney
Seems to have been cosed somewhere between 1980 & 1990

http://pigfish.vic.cmis.csiro.au/~ajw/VRMaps/

Graeme
  Graeme Beginner

Location: Sydney
Thank to the Lakes Entrance Historical Society the opening ceremony fpr the Orbost opening was 10/4/1916 & the last passenger train to Bairnsdale was 22/8/93. I undertand that this is about to re-open.   Smile
  gippslander Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
Hi
Can anyone tell me when the Orbost Line was truncated to Bairnsdale?

Thanks

Graeme
"Graeme"


It was closed in August 1987, dismantled 1993-94. Newsrail had a fairly detailed account of the last few weeks trains. The line was closed because of the loss of timber traffic following deregulation and the deteriorating condition of the track and numerous timber bridges. It would have been a hopelessly uneconomic proposition by the time it closed, with tens of millions of dollars needed to upgrade the track and replace the bridges.
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
I was fortunate to be able to have a trolley ride (legally) at Nowa Nowa in October 1993. The rails had been lifted form Bairnsdale to the Princes Hwy crossing at the time.

A train did derail on the Stoney Ck trestle I hear. But this was long before the line closed. A W guard broke on a wagon overloaded with gypsum. I've seen the photos. In the 70's I think. Some of the wagons were tipped off the bridge as it was apparently easier than rerailing them. The remains are still there, but buried now. A GY or RY door stanchion was sitting near the bridge a few months ago.

The only rail left that I've seen is in some level crossings, a siding at Nowa Nowa and the rail on the Stoney Ck. bridge. This trestle had 2 spans removed recently - in danger of collapsing. I was in the area last Sunday but didn't check out the trestle again.
  TA 2000 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA - I wish!
I was fortunate to be able to have a trolley ride (legally) at Nowa Nowa in October 1993. The rails had been lifted form Bairnsdale to the Princes Hwy crossing at the time.

A train did derail on the Stoney Ck trestle I hear. But this was long before the line closed. A W guard broke on a wagon overloaded with gypsum. I've seen the photos. In the 70's I think. Some of the wagons were tipped off the bridge as it was apparently easier than rerailing them. The remains are still there, but buried now. A GY or RY door stanchion was sitting near the bridge a few months ago.

The only rail left that I've seen is in some level crossings, a siding at Nowa Nowa and the rail on the Stoney Ck. bridge. This trestle had 2 spans removed recently - in danger of collapsing. I was in the area last Sunday but didn't check out the trestle again.
"B 67"


Do you have any photo of the line since its been pulled up.
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
Do you have any photo of the line since its been pulled up.
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Tom Christy





Yes, I do have a number of photos taken since the line was pulled up. Mostly bridges and rail crossings. Including a section of former Princes Hwy (with trees growing through the edges of the bitumen) with the RAIL  X markings still visible.
Are you after anything in particular?
  oz1235 Junior Train Controller

I go down to Bairnsdale for Holiday since 1985 (6 months old)  and I have not seen a Train go across that Mitchell River Bridge since i was 4
  TA 2000 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA - I wish!
Do you have any photo of the line since its been pulled up.
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Thanks
Tom Christy





Yes, I do have a number of photos taken since the line was pulled up. Mostly bridges and rail crossings. Including a section of former Princes Hwy (with trees growing through the edges of the bitumen) with the RAIL  X markings still visible.
Are you after anything in particular?
"B 67"


Any really.
  TA 2000 Chief Commissioner

Location: SA - I wish!
Do you have any photo of the line since its been pulled up.
_________________
Thanks
Tom Christy





Yes, I do have a number of photos taken since the line was pulled up. Mostly bridges and rail crossings. Including a section of former Princes Hwy (with trees growing through the edges of the bitumen) with the RAIL  X markings still visible.
Are you after anything in particular?
"B 67"


Any really. If you can email them to me. My email address is down of the bottom of the screen.

Thanks
Tom
  pberrett Chief Commissioner

Location: Melbourne, West Island
[quote="MTom (I Use Vodafone)"][quote="B 67"]

Do you have any photo of the line since its been pulled up.[/quote]

Check this out. A tour of the line (and of the Kilcunda line) via homemade railway trolley.

http://www.bluehaze.com.au/mmedia/

cheers Peter
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland


Do you have any photo of the line since its been pulled up.
"B 67"


Check this out. A tour of the line (and of the Kilcunda line) via homemade railway trolley.

http://www.bluehaze.com.au/mmedia/

cheers Peter
"MTom (I Use Vodafone)"

Thanks for that link. I recall looking at the site a couple of years ago (give or take).
Some of the pics are not at the locations in the captions (the Stoney / Stony Creek bridge is not on a curve for example). I seem to recall supplying correct info at the time, but it hasn't been used. Oh well. Still interesting to have a look.
  pjv101 Station Master

Location: Mill Park, Melbourne, Vic
>A train did derail on the Stoney Ck trestle I hear. But this was long >before the line closed. A W guard broke on a wagon overloaded with >gypsum.

That was in 1964 when the IZ/GZ wagons were 27t and the W guards were failing on this type. They were derated to 16t and reclassified RY

The only rail left that I've seen is in some level crossings, a siding at Nowa Nowa and the rail on the Stoney Ck. bridge. This trestle had 2 spans

How about the rail siding at the Up end of the station, about 800m out?

pjv
  K160 Minister for Railways

Location: Bendigo
If anyone has the latest copy of Newsrail there is a picture of the Stoney Creek Trestle taken from the down end with two spans removed. They were unsafe so thats why they were removed  8)
  gippslander Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland, Vic
If anyone has the latest copy of Newsrail there is a picture of the Stoney Creek Trestle taken from the down end with two spans removed. They were unsafe so thats why they were removed  8)
"CMRPS"


Nearly all the Orbost line trestles not on the rail trail route are either already or potentially hazardous. They have received no structural maintenance since the line closed in 1987, and are a constant temptation to people who want to walk over them. It would only take one incident for some serious public liability problems to come into play. In the VR days the scrub was kept cleared but not any more!
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
>A train did derail on the Stoney Ck trestle I hear. But this was long >before the line closed. A W guard broke on a wagon overloaded with >gypsum.

That was in 1964 when the IZ/GZ wagons were 27t and the W guards were failing on this type. They were derated to 16t and reclassified RY

The only rail left that I've seen is in some level crossings, a siding at Nowa Nowa and the rail on the Stoney Ck. bridge. This trestle had 2 spans

How about the rail siding at the Up end of the station, about 800m out?

pjv
"pjv101"


Which station did you mean?     I haven't exactly walked the whole line. So I'd not be surprised if there's track I hadn't noticed.
Thanks for clarifying the date for me of the derailment. I couldn't remember when it was. But somebody showed me photos of the incident a couple of years ago. I didn't think to ask for copies.

Perhaps I should send a copy of the photo I took of the door stanchion (or whatever is the correct term) near the trestle so you can identify the wagon it came from. It looked like a GY to me, but I'm not the wagon expert here.  Wink   It was near the top of the bridge, on fresh earthworks from when the gas pipeline was put through the area. Looked like it had been placed there though.


If anyone has the latest copy of Newsrail there is a picture of the Stoney Creek Trestle taken from the down end with two spans removed. They were unsafe so thats why they were removed
"CMRPS"


Funny, I saw that photo and thought it looked just like one I took earlier this year. Then I realised the photo above was also like one I took. Ahem! Forgot I submitted them a few months ago.  Laughing
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I believe the line was removed mid 90's from memory reading an article in one of the regular mags.  A shame really, it makes you wonder had the line still been there, would FA have been working on this line with logs to Geelong?
"freightgate"


I'm sure this would have been the case.  Blame Alan Brown!

Regards,
Brian
  pjv101 Station Master

Location: Mill Park, Melbourne, Vic
How about the rail siding at the Up end of the station, about 800m out?
"pjv101"


Nowa Nowa. One of the sawmills had a two track siding. The Up am goods used to run a switch up the hill with empties and return with loads. Only switched Mon-Fri. I always wondered if the RT went up there on 'sneak' runs

Send a photo if you like, always willing to add stuff to the collection.

Thanks

pjv
  B 67 Chief Commissioner

Location: Central Gippsland
How about the rail siding at the Up end of the station, about 800m out?
"pjv101"


Nowa Nowa. One of the sawmills had a two track siding. The Up am goods used to run a switch up the hill with empties and return with loads. Only switched Mon-Fri. I always wondered if the RT went up there on 'sneak' runs

Send a photo if you like, always willing to add stuff to the collection.

Thanks

pjv
"pjv101"


I'll have to have a better look next time I'm there. I rode a trolley at Nowa Nowa (legally) in 1993 (?) just after the rails had begun to be lifted from Bairnsdale.  I don't recall seeing this siding. But then again, I couldn't see the rails anyway. Too much grass. Or maybe we hadn't gone far enough that way.

I'll send the pic then. And a few other things I said I'd send quite some time ago (McKeen railmotor manual).
  pjv101 Station Master

Location: Mill Park, Melbourne, Vic
From the station:

Up the hill under the bridge at Up end, over girder bridge (where home signal was on Up side), climb straight, under road bridge, curve to right, straight and siding comes out there on down down side parallel and flat so main line drops rapidly with siding on flat/ramp

Maybe only one siding, never got photo but remember never leaving trucks on main line, so probably two short sidings about 4-6 trucks each.

pjv

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