Pt Stanvac freight traffic

 
  1S47 Assistant Commissioner

Location: On the Down Fast
Since the closure of the oil refinery, the sidings at Pt Stanvac have recently been cleared of tank wagons (which did not seem to have moved anywhere for a good long time).  The tracks inside the refinery have now been lifted and the area levelled by grader.  The TA stabling sidings at Pt Stanvac are still intact, of course, but it'll soon be hard to tell there was ever a rail connection inside the refinery property.

As I understand it, when the line was extended from Hallett Cove to Pt Stanvac & Christie Downs in the 1970's (?), one of the main motivations was to serve the refinery.

Does anyone know whether there was ever any regular freight traffic from Pt Stanvac & where it went to?

I remember seeing an occasional working of loco & a few tank wagons in the late 1980's, but this was literally one or two tanks.  Was this how AN got their diesel fuel back then?

Were there ever any full size oil trains up & down the Noarlunga line?  Or any regular traffic into the Mitsubishi foundry siding on the eastern side of the line?

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  sarlocoash Junior Train Controller

Location: south Australia
there was scrap metal going into the foundry at one tine when the line was opened i belive.
  bevans Site Admin

Location: Melbourne, Australia
I rest my case. Where do the SA government find all their money to pull lines up quickly, but nothing to replace or upgrade?



Regards,
Brian
  monday Chief Commissioner

The stanvac oil train was replaced by a thumping big oil/fuel pipeline that runs down the coast of adelaide from Stanvac to the distribution centres at Osborne.

The pipeline is quite an engineering feat in itself and is significantly cheaper and more efficient than running low volume slow expensive trains.

Pt Stanvac is still being used a distribution centre despite it not refining oil anymore.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
Would there still have been the ability to distribute oil/petrol from PS using rail?
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
The stanvac oil train was replaced by a thumping big oil/fuel pipeline that runs down the coast of adelaide from Stanvac to the distribution centres at Osborne.
"monday"


Is rail access available at Osbourne?
  monday Chief Commissioner

There is definately SG access at some of the Osborne facilities, but i doubt the broad guage access exists anymore.  More than likely any redundant dual guage switches have been removed to be used else where in the ARTC network.
  mars Chief Commissioner

Location: Rail SA
The stanvac oil train was replaced by a thumping big oil/fuel pipeline that runs down the coast of adelaide from Stanvac to the distribution centres at Osborne.
"monday"


Is rail access available at Osbourne?
"freightgate"


That's where the fuel for Cook comes from so yes.
  Jumbofreak Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide
anyone know of any diagram/pic of the track inside pt stanvac? according to the street atlas the track runs about parallel with the noarlunga line for about 1/2 a km
  allan Chief Commissioner

The subject was discussed in an early issue of AMRM - July 1977 issue. This includes track plans and operational information of that era.
  Guard Class 2 Chief Commissioner

Location: Elizabeth,South Australia
Allan, Is it possible to view or purchase a copy of that booklet, and also what does AMRM stand for?


Regards,
Wayne
  allan Chief Commissioner

Old issues of Australian Model Railway Magazine are not allways easy to find...
  AFULE Chief Train Controller

Location: South Australia
I remember firing and driving large oil trains regularly on the line to Port Stanvac during the 70/80's. We also operated trains to the Mitsubishi siding at Lonsdale, they mainly carried scrap steel.

Afule
  allan Chief Commissioner

The scrap wagons were a small fleet of dedicated (and letterred) four wheel Y wagons.

The tankers included bitumen and locomotive fuel tankers, so it was a colourful train.

The traffic continued rather later than I had thought - I've just found a photo from 1988 (SA Diesel Pictorial - the 1980s).
  allan Chief Commissioner

If we keep going at this rate, there will be sufficient information to write a book.

The Pt Stanvac Branch was opened on May 14, 1963 at approximately 8.45am, after the passage of no. 260 up passenger train!

The branch began just North of Hallet Cove RS.

The dead end siding (Chrysler's) was opened in 1967, and closed on December 18, 1983.

At various times there were one or two services a day. Just about any available diesel ran the trip, up to, and including a BL!

A special, hauled by Rx 224 was the only steam movement that I know of - and that was most unusual: guards were expected to extinguish the stoves in their vans before proceeding to the refinery.
  Jumbofreak Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide
Allan, Is it possible to view or purchase a copy of that booklet,

"Guard Class 2"


No unfortunatley, some can be purchased through the Australian Model Railway Magazine website but the earliest issue available is from late 1979, would be nice to see some of those old mags though Laughing


The Pt Stanvac Branch was opened on May 14, 1963 at approximately 8.45am, after the passage of no. 260 up passenger train!


wow that early? i thought it was around 1970, because i have some photos of the lonsdale embankment with the track being layed dated around 1970... or was there another line before the embankment? Smile
  allan Chief Commissioner

Well, yes, there was another line...

The original mainline ran to Willunga. This was taken up in about 1971, leaving a suburban line to Hallet Cove, and the branch to Pt Stanvac.

The Christie Downs Project (Noarlunga Centre line) saw the branch turned into a double track main line with a siding and small yard at Pt Stanvac on the West side of the line, and a dead-end siding on the Eastern side (Chrysler's, Lonsdale).
  Jumbofreak Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide
found a pic of Port Stanvac around 1980 from the STA archives, and the yard on the left... is that just 2 tracks wide or is there another behind the oil tankers? im trying to model this in trainz Very Happy
  allan Chief Commissioner

That is the run around, outside of the gates into Stanvac. The refinery yard is out of view.
  freightgate Minister for Railways

Location: Albury, New South Wales
The two tracks in the centre, are they the mainline?

Was there a pier or dock at the end of these lines?
  allan Chief Commissioner

The tracks at centre are the main lines to Noarlunga Centre.

There was, and is, a jetty, but the railway doesn't go anywhere near it.
  Jumbofreak Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide
The tracks shown are about 70m above sea level, according to a geodata map i have... i guess there would be no way for the track to reach the jetty with an acceptable gradient anyway:)
  allan Chief Commissioner

A zig-zag through the refinery would have been interesting...
  Jumbofreak Junior Train Controller

Location: Adelaide
Is there any grade at all in the railyard and what is shown on that photo, or is it all dead flat? Anyone know?
  1S47 Assistant Commissioner

Location: On the Down Fast
AFAIK the sidings within the yard were effectively level.

Referring to the the picture posted, the train is on the run-around loop and this view is looking north (towards Brighton).  Access to the yard was at the north end of the loop, beyond the loco, probably just off this picture.  There was a headshunt, and sidings came back parallel to the main line and run-round loops shown here.  They are (were) situated just behind that row of trees on the left side of picture.  

I believe there were about 4 parallel sidings in the yard (behind those trees), serviced by pumping hardware for filling the tank wagons with the various petrochemicals.   The sidings didn't extend any further south than the point where this photo was taken and didn't go into the main part of the refinery.

The photo was taken from a pedestrian footbridge at the far western end of Sherriffs Rd, Lonsdale and is easily accessible, either by car or from Lonsdale Station.   Today you will still see the two run-round loops, now surrounded by electrified fence & floodlights.  Used by TA to stable jumbos & 3000 railcars overnight (plus a couple of railcars in the mid-day siesta, when Noarlunga service is cut from 15 to 30 min freq.)   No freight, unfortunately, and the Chrysler/Mitsubishi sidings on right-hand side of photo are truncated, rusted and overgrown, but at least some track still there.

The "Port" in Port Stanvac Yard is a bit misleading, as it is a long way, both vertically and horizontally, from the sea.  The actual Port Stanvac was used mainly to offload crude oil for the refinery.  There is a jetty, but in recent times I think ships "park" (or whatever it is that ships do) a long way offshore against a buoy and connect to an undersea pipeline.  They pumped the oil from the ships this way, which has caused a spill or two in the past.  There is no public access to this "Port" and no real need for the railway to go down to the sea.

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