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    • woodford posted
    Posted in Other Transport » Passenger plane goes down in ocean off Indonesia

    It is pointless speculating about the cause of accidents. Let the investigations take their course. Here’s two Airbus accidents, an A330 and an A300, that were predominantly caused by pilot error, but in which design flaws could arguably be a contributing factor. Note how far forward of the wing the engines are in both designs.

    Pilots managed to stall the aircraft after the pitot tubes iced up, causing erroneous airspeed indications:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

    The co-pilot used light aircraft techniques and snapped the vertical stabilizer off:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587

    kitchgp

    I regard both of these as pilot error, in both cases the controlling pilots miss understood aircraft performance through lack of/poor training, the effect of technology in both cases was minimal, ie in both cases an experienced pilot would have had little problems. For the MAX 8 the same applies, ie a well trained pilot would have little problem.

    woodford

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    Edited 23 Mar 2019 21:38, last year, edited by woodford

    It is pointless speculating about the cause of accidents. Let the investigations take their course. Here’s two Airbus accidents, an A330 and an A300, that were predominantly caused by pilot error, but in which design flaws could arguably be a contributing factor. Note how far forward of the wing the engines are in both designs.

    Pilots managed to stall the aircraft after the pitot tubes iced up, causing erroneous airspeed indications:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_447

    The co-pilot used light aircraft techniques and snapped the vertical stabilizer off:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_587

    kitchgp

    I regard both of these as pilot error, in both cases the controlling pilots miss understood aircraft performance through lack of/poor training, the effect of technology in both cases was minimal, ie in both cases an experienced pilot would have had little problems.

    woodford