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    potatoinmymouth posted 04 Jun 2019 14:00
    Posted in Sydney Suburban » Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west

    This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.  

    Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.

    Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west

    Name a Metro/Suburban/interurban commuter and regional passenger rail project in Sydney that was Fed funded in last 10-20 years?

    Meanwhile the Vic RFR, promised hand outs for Geelong, what else.....hell you even want the Feds to fund the Airport line, something 3 other states started on their own.

    Mel/Vic currently has the highest population growth, but 10 years ago it was BNE/Qld, with Syd/NSW in between. Who's to day it won't change, again!

    I have no idea how you've developed this idea that NSW is a Good Little Vegemiter without its hand out for cash.

    "The NSW Treasurer wants more commonwealth cash for his state's big road, rail and airport projects."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/nsw-wants-roads-rail-funding-from-budget

    Drawing a semantic distinction about which modes have been funded and which have not makes no sense, because ultimately a rail dollar and a road dollar have the same budget impact. If the Feds fund a road for NSW, that gives them capital to build train lines - I would have though that's fairly obvious.

    Although it represents only part of the federal infrastructure funding, from 2014 to 2017 NSW had $13.9b deposited under the NPA, while Victoria had only $8.5b.

    A cynic might even suggest that the federal funding is directed to smaller projects so the NSW Government gets big ribbon-cutting opportunities all to itself.

    Edit: here's a source that does the sums. Look at those graphs and tell me a) NSW is "self-funded" and b) Victoria is not being dudded in favour of Queensland and WA.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-14/fact-check-south-australia-infrastructure-funding/9537064
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-14/fact-check-south-australia-infrastructure-funding/9537064

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    Edited 04 Jun 2019 14:11, 2 years ago, edited by potatoinmymouth

    This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.  

    Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.

    Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west

    Name a Metro/Suburban/interurban commuter and regional passenger rail project in Sydney that was Fed funded in last 10-20 years?

    Meanwhile the Vic RFR, promised hand outs for Geelong, what else.....hell you even want the Feds to fund the Airport line, something 3 other states started on their own.

    Mel/Vic currently has the highest population growth, but 10 years ago it was BNE/Qld, with Syd/NSW in between. Who's to day it won't change, again!

    RTT_Rules

    I have no idea how you've developed this idea that NSW is a Good Little Vegemiter without its hand out for cash.

    "The NSW Treasurer wants more commonwealth cash for his state's big road, rail and airport projects."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/nsw-wants-roads-rail-funding-from-budget

    Drawing a semantic distinction about which modes have been funded and which have not makes no sense, because ultimately a rail dollar and a road dollar have the same budget impact. If the Feds fund a road for NSW, that gives them capital to build train lines - I would have though that's fairly obvious.

    Although it represents only part of the federal infrastructure funding, from 2014 to 2017 NSW had $13.9b deposited under the NPA, while Victoria had only $8.5b.

    A cynic might even suggest that the federal funding is directed to smaller projects so the NSW Government gets big ribbon-cutting opportunities all to itself.

    Edit: here's a source that does the sums. Look at those graphs and tell me a) NSW is "self-funded" and b) Victoria is not being dudded in favour of Queensland and WA.

    Edited 04 Jun 2019 14:10, 2 years ago, edited by potatoinmymouth

    This is bound to stir up the Vic/NSW funding argument when Melbourne is growing faster than Sydney and more cash is going into network in Sydney than Melbourne.  

    Assuming this is real and not purely designed to provoke discussion.

    Push for PM to commit money to building $20b metro line to Sydney's west

    Name a Metro/Suburban/interurban commuter and regional passenger rail project in Sydney that was Fed funded in last 10-20 years?

    Meanwhile the Vic RFR, promised hand outs for Geelong, what else.....hell you even want the Feds to fund the Airport line, something 3 other states started on their own.

    Mel/Vic currently has the highest population growth, but 10 years ago it was BNE/Qld, with Syd/NSW in between. Who's to day it won't change, again!

    RTT_Rules

    I have no idea how you've developed this idea that NSW is a Good Little Vegemiter without its hand out for cash.

    "The NSW Treasurer wants more commonwealth cash for his state's big road, rail and airport projects."

    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/nsw-wants-roads-rail-funding-from-budget

    Drawing a semantic distinction about which modes have been funded and which have not makes no sense, because ultimately a rail dollar and a road dollar have the same budget impact. If the Feds fund a road for NSW, that gives them capital to build train lines - I would have though that's fairly obvious.

    Although it represents only part of the federal infrastructure funding, from 2014 to 2017 NSW had $13.9b deposited under the NPA, while Victoria had only $8.5b.

    A cynic might even suggest that the federal funding is directed to smaller projects so the NSW Government gets big ribbon-cutting opportunities all to itself.

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