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    RTT_Rules posted 23 Jun 2019 13:17
    Posted in The Lounge » Bob Hawke dies age 89

    Thank you, Valvegear. I could not have expressed it better.
    Unlike some commentators here who were probably in nappies if actually born in 1975, I remember it well. being 31 at the time. I would have manned the barricades but Whitlam called for calm. In 1972 the nation elected a government that finally did something for the people. As a teacher I saw amazing changes in schools. Some things were done too quickly and the world economy was adverse but we had suffered 23 years of an increasingly stale conservative government lacking any vision. But the conservatives thought they were born to rule and, as stated, did everything to block reform. They forced an election after 18 months and lost then 18 months later used the Senate to block supply and manipulated Kerr. Kerr got everything he deserved, despised by both sides of politics and the general public.
    I agree point 1 by RTT is the most stupid of  the many stupid statements he has written.
    As I understand it in the Senate after the recent election (much more complex than in 1975), if Labor/Greens were able to convince 4 of the other 6 cross benchers, they could block supply and create a rerun of '75. Not going to happen because neither side is likely to go down that road again.
    At the time I hated Fraser but came to give him some respect and actually felt a little sorry for him the day Hawke won the election, although I was elated.   I am unlikely to ever have any respect for Howard and still have no words to describe my utter detestation of Kerr
    Brianr
    Brian,
    In 1975 the PM and the govt was fired for poor performance and on a side note generating a bucket load of debt in a very short space of time, Kerr did the job he was paid to do, we need to get over this. If Kerr was so bad then why the hell did Whitlam give the job in the first place?

    Fraser's time was more than up by 1982, it was his time to go.

    Howard did more for the economy the PM's Whitlam, Keating, Rudd/Gillard/Rudd, Abbott, Turnbull did combined.

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    Edited 23 Jun 2019 13:18, 2 years ago, edited by RTT_Rules

    Thank you, Valvegear. I could not have expressed it better.
    Unlike some commentators here who were probably in nappies if actually born in 1975, I remember it well. being 31 at the time. I would have manned the barricades but Whitlam called for calm. In 1972 the nation elected a government that finally did something for the people. As a teacher I saw amazing changes in schools. Some things were done too quickly and the world economy was adverse but we had suffered 23 years of an increasingly stale conservative government lacking any vision. But the conservatives thought they were born to rule and, as stated, did everything to block reform. They forced an election after 18 months and lost then 18 months later used the Senate to block supply and manipulated Kerr. Kerr got everything he deserved, despised by both sides of politics and the general public.
    I agree point 1 by RTT is the most stupid of  the many stupid statements he has written.
    As I understand it in the Senate after the recent election (much more complex than in 1975), if Labor/Greens were able to convince 4 of the other 6 cross benchers, they could block supply and create a rerun of '75. Not going to happen because neither side is likely to go down that road again.
    At the time I hated Fraser but came to give him some respect and actually felt a little sorry for him the day Hawke won the election, although I was elated.   I am unlikely to ever have any respect for Howard and still have no words to describe my utter detestation of Kerr
    Brianr
    Brian,
    In 1975 the PM and the govt was fired for poor performance and on a side note generating a bucket load of debt in a very short space of time, Kerr did the job he was paid to do, we need to get over this.

    Fraser's time was more than up by 1982, it was his time to go.

    Howard did more for the economy the PM's Whitlam, Keating, Rudd/Gillard/Rudd did combined.

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