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    • Valvegear posted
    Posted in The Lounge » Bob Hawke dies age 89

    You posted along list of mistakes by Whitlam, not me, starting with giving Kerr the job in the first place.
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    1. I did not post a list of mistakes. I said they made silly mistakes. Please quote my "long list".

    2. Any comment on failings by the Whitlam government was quite clearly stated in the context of the loss in the election following the dismissal.
    3. At no time have I said that Whitlam's appointment of Kerr was a mistake. You did say it, and history proves it to be correct. Please put up the quote where I said it.

    You say Whitlam was outplayed - it's precisely what I've been saying from square one. Read what I said, namely that Fraser knew how to handle Kerr and Whitlam didn't.

    Let's say it one more time. The government was not dismissed on the grounds of incompetence. It is not in the Governor-General's prerogative to do so.
    The government was dismissed because it could not guarantee supply. It was a coup by Fraser, Withers, and Kerr.

    By the way, what is your opinion of the roles played by Senator Bert Milliner, Senator Cleaver Bunton, Senator Vincent Gair, and Senator Albert Field?

    You may think that the dismissal was well deserved - that is your opinion and you are welcome to it. Obviously a lot of other people thought it was.
    But; at least stick to facts when you discuss it. I'm not sure whether you are playing Agent Provocateur, or are genuinely trying to make a fool of yourself.

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    Edited 24 Jun 2019 16:43, 2 years ago, edited by Valvegear

    You posted along list of mistakes by Whitlam, not me, starting with giving Kerr the job in the first place.
    "RTT_Rules"
    .
    1. I did not post a list of mistakes. I said they made silly mistakes. Please quote my "long list".

    2. Any comment on failings by the Whitlam government was quite clearly stated in the context of the loss in the election following the dismissal.
    3. At no time have I said that Whitlam's appointment of Kerr was a mistake. You did say it, and history proves it to be correct. Please put up the quote where I said it.

    You say Whitlam was outplayed - it's precisely what I've been saying from square one. Read what I said, namely that Fraser knew how to handle Kerr and Whitlam didn't.

    Let's say it one more time. The government was not dismissed on the grounds of incompetence. It is not in the Governor-General's prerogative to do so.
    The government was dismissed because it could not guarantee supply. It was a coup by Fraser, Withers, and Kerr.

    By the way, what is your opinion of the roles played by Senator Bert Millner, Senator Cleaver Bunton, Senator Vincent Gair, and Senator Albert Field?

    You may think that the dismissal was well deserved - that is your opinion and you are welcome to it. Obviously a lot of other people thought it was.
    But; at least stick to facts when you discuss it. I'm not sure whether you are playing Agent Provocateur, or are genuinely trying to make a fool of yourself.